My effort is contributing to my community and the less fortunate. You think me bubbling in a check mark for someone who is giving the thumbs up for an ethnic cleansing and genocide is putting in work? Go outside.
I really hope your 2016 vote went to an independent, then. I’m having a hard time seeing how Trump would ever do either of those things. Granted, he might thumbs-up an ethnic cleansing if it meant remaining in power.
“Things aren’t going how I like when I vote, so now i will encourage everyone to not vote to improve the chances that things will change the way I want them to”
People are always ready with some morality test but the cold hard truth is trying to enforce your absolutes on others is not going to work out. It just backs you into a corner supporting a turd sandwich. Compromises suck though. Can’t have that. You do you.
What good dude? We murder civilians in multiple countries every year regardless of who’s in power. Trump and Obama both indiscriminately murdered civilians with drone strikes, Biden expanded police funding more than any president before him. Hilary Clinton bragged and laughed about overthrowing a democratically elected government. Nearly all Dems and republicans voted in favor of expanding the military budget by billions of dollars even though we just ended a fucking war. We’re definitively the most evil country that has existed on this planet since at least the Dawn of the modern nation-state, and more blood is on the hands of Americans than any other nation on earth.
Several presidents have put tax dollars to work on medical research.
For example the The U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) paved the way for money for the PreP trials in 2005.
Obama kicked off precision medicine and gene research.
Obama’s HITECH Act reformed HIPAA in a way that improved outcomes for patients and the industry.
But yea, everything is black and white. Conflicts in Africa and the middle east are the only concern I could ever have.
I especially do not care at all about any medical advancements or harm reductions.
Everyone must survive and no one can ever be harmed or everything is lost.
You know you sound just like the every sperm is sacred anti abortion activists.
War = so bad we must sabotage anyone involved in war and trade all our liberties, freedoms, health, etc just to not have war!
I’ve always found it strange how people gatekeep internet culture. Especially when it’s meaningless in the face of a genocide. I don’t care about this perfect utopia you expected the fediverse to be. I will be firmly against genocide and will say it wherever I see fit.
It’s more that you talk like nobody else is against genocide. Nobody here wants genocide. Your “solution” is just a nothing burger. The reality is every government is pretty fucked up, some more than others. There’s no way to change the whole world order, so you try make it as less shit for as many people as possible, not just throw your hands up and say “I’m done with voting”.
Whilst it’s a topic that can get very personal (which is why invariably political discussions ultimately get heated very quickly, as this thread has shown), I think the point here essentially boils down to pointing out what not voting means.
In a system where you have one side doing their best to amplify the weight votes for them have (whether that be through gerrymandering, the electoral college, etc), not voting just increases that amplification. So whilst on paper not voting demonstrates your lack of confidence in either side (and let’s be honest, without some real changes it’s a two horse race), in reality that decision is primarily (not exclusively, but primarily) benefiting one side of politics.
If you’re making the decision to not vote with full knowledge of what that means, realistically I think that’s all someone can ask without getting into a discussion about trying to change your mind about that decision.
Wee! We get full harm because you only want perfection at all times with no effort at all! Woohoo!
My effort is contributing to my community and the less fortunate. You think me bubbling in a check mark for someone who is giving the thumbs up for an ethnic cleansing and genocide is putting in work? Go outside.
I really hope your 2016 vote went to an independent, then. I’m having a hard time seeing how Trump would ever do either of those things. Granted, he might thumbs-up an ethnic cleansing if it meant remaining in power.
I voted for Clinton and Biden. I’m done voting.
So fucking stupid and short-sighted.
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“Things aren’t going how I like when I vote, so now i will encourage everyone to not vote to improve the chances that things will change the way I want them to”
I shared my opinion on a public forum.
I let perfect be the enemy of good.
I’m doing my part, for the Republicans!
People are always ready with some morality test but the cold hard truth is trying to enforce your absolutes on others is not going to work out. It just backs you into a corner supporting a turd sandwich. Compromises suck though. Can’t have that. You do you.
What good dude? We murder civilians in multiple countries every year regardless of who’s in power. Trump and Obama both indiscriminately murdered civilians with drone strikes, Biden expanded police funding more than any president before him. Hilary Clinton bragged and laughed about overthrowing a democratically elected government. Nearly all Dems and republicans voted in favor of expanding the military budget by billions of dollars even though we just ended a fucking war. We’re definitively the most evil country that has existed on this planet since at least the Dawn of the modern nation-state, and more blood is on the hands of Americans than any other nation on earth.
Several presidents have put tax dollars to work on medical research. For example the The U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) paved the way for money for the PreP trials in 2005.
Obama kicked off precision medicine and gene research.
Obama’s HITECH Act reformed HIPAA in a way that improved outcomes for patients and the industry.
But yea, everything is black and white. Conflicts in Africa and the middle east are the only concern I could ever have.
I especially do not care at all about any medical advancements or harm reductions.
Everyone must survive and no one can ever be harmed or everything is lost.
You know you sound just like the every sperm is sacred anti abortion activists.
War = so bad we must sabotage anyone involved in war and trade all our liberties, freedoms, health, etc just to not have war!
Harm reduction stops working as an argument when it is facilitating genocide.
Go back to Reddit if you want pats on the back for not voting or voting for someone that wants to strip human rights.
I’ve always found it strange how people gatekeep internet culture. Especially when it’s meaningless in the face of a genocide. I don’t care about this perfect utopia you expected the fediverse to be. I will be firmly against genocide and will say it wherever I see fit.
It’s more that you talk like nobody else is against genocide. Nobody here wants genocide. Your “solution” is just a nothing burger. The reality is every government is pretty fucked up, some more than others. There’s no way to change the whole world order, so you try make it as less shit for as many people as possible, not just throw your hands up and say “I’m done with voting”.
I’m done with lesser evil voting. Pout all you want, but if I don’t believe in the person I’m not voting for them. End of story. Have a nice day.
Whilst it’s a topic that can get very personal (which is why invariably political discussions ultimately get heated very quickly, as this thread has shown), I think the point here essentially boils down to pointing out what not voting means.
In a system where you have one side doing their best to amplify the weight votes for them have (whether that be through gerrymandering, the electoral college, etc), not voting just increases that amplification. So whilst on paper not voting demonstrates your lack of confidence in either side (and let’s be honest, without some real changes it’s a two horse race), in reality that decision is primarily (not exclusively, but primarily) benefiting one side of politics.
If you’re making the decision to not vote with full knowledge of what that means, realistically I think that’s all someone can ask without getting into a discussion about trying to change your mind about that decision.
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