I’d like to come back to apologize, I didn’t fully understand what you were saying before and wanted to clarify that you are not wrong either.
Lysergamides are not tryptamines, but they do contain tryptamines, however they also contain phenethlyamines which, like tryptamines, are a class of psychedelic substances themselves. Although Lysergamides contain these two substances, scientists agree that they should be classified as a separate class altogether as they have both distinctive enough effects and enough variations under their tree that do not fit anywhere specifically under the tryptamine or phenethtlamine tree. As far as I’m aware, this is distinctly from a chemistry perspective and doesn’t incorporate psychonautics into it’s classification (although the reverse is usually the case).
I wouldn’t say that anything sucks about it though, there is always new information coming out, that’s what makes science awesome. We like to think that we have got it all figured out, but there is always something that could throw everything we know off the table. Remember that the scientific method only came about in the 17th century, everything was pretty much theory up until then and that’s still a very small amount of time for us to have learned everything we have learned.
Once again, I am sorry for how my tone may have been before. I am told I can come off as accusatory or adamant at times but I try not to be. I hope this makes you feel better, you are not wrong, there was just more to the story is all :).
Yo, I’m just happy to learn new things! Hell, my post was imploring people to criticize it, so you aren’t wrong in “well actually”-ing me. Keep killing it and keep sharing good chemistry knowledge! Psychoactive substances are continuously more intriguing to me as I learn more.
I met one of the grandsons of Alex Shulgin (creator of MDMA) in a drug diversion class that I taught briefly at the University of Oregon (meant for kids that were caught smoking weed in the dorms). I only hosted the class for a few months until I got complaints that I was too fascinated with the drug interactions and not with the whole “diversion” part of it.
But hey, everyone learned not to mix central nervous system depressants, which was the largest cause of drug-related fatalities at the UO, so I think I did my job effectively. Wish they would have paid me for it.
I’d like to come back to apologize, I didn’t fully understand what you were saying before and wanted to clarify that you are not wrong either.
Lysergamides are not tryptamines, but they do contain tryptamines, however they also contain phenethlyamines which, like tryptamines, are a class of psychedelic substances themselves. Although Lysergamides contain these two substances, scientists agree that they should be classified as a separate class altogether as they have both distinctive enough effects and enough variations under their tree that do not fit anywhere specifically under the tryptamine or phenethtlamine tree. As far as I’m aware, this is distinctly from a chemistry perspective and doesn’t incorporate psychonautics into it’s classification (although the reverse is usually the case).
I wouldn’t say that anything sucks about it though, there is always new information coming out, that’s what makes science awesome. We like to think that we have got it all figured out, but there is always something that could throw everything we know off the table. Remember that the scientific method only came about in the 17th century, everything was pretty much theory up until then and that’s still a very small amount of time for us to have learned everything we have learned.
Once again, I am sorry for how my tone may have been before. I am told I can come off as accusatory or adamant at times but I try not to be. I hope this makes you feel better, you are not wrong, there was just more to the story is all :).
Yo, I’m just happy to learn new things! Hell, my post was imploring people to criticize it, so you aren’t wrong in “well actually”-ing me. Keep killing it and keep sharing good chemistry knowledge! Psychoactive substances are continuously more intriguing to me as I learn more.
I met one of the grandsons of Alex Shulgin (creator of MDMA) in a drug diversion class that I taught briefly at the University of Oregon (meant for kids that were caught smoking weed in the dorms). I only hosted the class for a few months until I got complaints that I was too fascinated with the drug interactions and not with the whole “diversion” part of it.
But hey, everyone learned not to mix central nervous system depressants, which was the largest cause of drug-related fatalities at the UO, so I think I did my job effectively. Wish they would have paid me for it.
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