Former President Barack Obama cautioned against ignoring the complexities of the Israel-Hamas war, warning that “all of us are complicit.”
“If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody’s hands are clean, that all of us are complicit to some degree,” he said in an excerpted interview with Pod Save America released Saturday.
And he’s 100% correct.
Thank you so much.
This is way more complex than it’s getting credit for.
It always has been.
Anyway, I miss having a better leader. He was just so presidential. Not perfect, but no one can be.
he was a piece of shit. an eloquent neolib piece of shit. easy to reminisce about the better times when the last 2 presidents have been trash.
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“out” myself as what? a leftist that is sick of the constant cycle or warmongering corporate politicians that do fuck all for the good of the people and keep lining their “donors” pockets? I mean yeah ok busted?
I agree with you to an extent. I think Obama did what he thought was necessary but he did it with a touch of self righteousness that he thought justified his own greed. He caved into a lot of wall streets demands because he wanted to get the economy back on track and they were holding the US and the world to economic ransom. He openly admitted he didn’t know why he was given the Nobel peace prize and at that point I think it was because the world hadn’t seen his true colors - he knew he would go to war if he thought necessary and he did. I am vehemently anti war but I can see that a lot of Trumps anti war stance led to a weakening of stability over time by allowing injustices to take place in exchange for the end of fighting. This led to resentment and over time people reorganised and rose up from different angles. Ukraine would have been a perfect example and still might be if trump gets back in. The US would have let Russia take Ukraine or at least a chunk of it and the resentment would have been festering right now. The fact they are fighting outright is more of a reflection of the ideological stalemate manifesting into combat. If they were not fighting it’s likely the new idealogical imbalance would lead to growing resentment, this is similar to what we are seeing in Israel. The peace deal was done and the ideological imbalance was cemented and now hamas is retaliating. I don’t agree with either side but I understand why hamas are behaving in such a reckless and desperate way even if I don’t agree with their fundamental logic.
no but in order to be leftist you must like democrats or else you are a bot
Last time I checked I was real, you’re the one who mustn’t be real
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don’t be a politically illiterate bitch
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No, heroin actually, mixed with fentanyl and vodka, every hour by the pound
That’s what the grim reaper takes
The grim reaper seems way more chill than this guy
Who were the top three presidents in your mind and why?
none none and none.
turn cnn off and look at voting records, actions, military occupation, campaign finance etc and you’ll see why.
Really?
Can’t you pick a more interesting talking point then that boring bullshit?
pick a more interesting talking point than the presidents of the largest genocidal project in the world
Yawn.
Hexbears is that way in case you’re lost, buds.
I know your user name from reddit. Small world and disgustingly memorable username well done
thanks, “SatansMaggotyCumFart”.
no i came here from hexbear to bully you cracker ass losers
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Even the dead children?
What does this even mean?
They’re trying to do a “gotcha.” What they mean is, “Are even the dead children responsible for the situation they were in?”
It’s a fallacy; appeal to emotion. Obviously the dead children aren’t reading this, or hearing the words that “all of us are complicit.” Instead of thinking as a rational person would that the audience being addressed by those words are the people to who that phrase would apply, they did a rapid-fire, emotion-based response because they want to feel right and superior, instead of taking the mature, nuanced approach.
Orrrr, maybe they’re talking about how Palestinian children are blamed for throwing rocks at tanks.
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@roofuskit
That’s what I thought when I saw the headline but he’s actually talking about state actors when you read the context:
Especially the dead children. They were obviously bad because they chose to get born into the wrong place. Jesus hates them and had them killed for a reason. They should have chosen to get borned into a nice white Christian family in America.
yes, even the giraffes.