I just hate the idea of paying so much not because great features but Google having beaten me into submission by taking away free features and introducing shitty stuff to force me to pay.
To be fair I never felt like Google beat me into submission. I pay for it because I consume so many hours of video that subscribing makes sense and gives some small amount to the creators I watch. That amount was zero before I subscribed, since I was blocking advertisements.
That said I do see the frustration. I don’t think they’ve gone about it in a great way.
What do you feel about giving your money to a company that truly doesn’t deserve it and can fuck up its customers whenever they can? Even more when you can get YouTube Premium features easily for free with a proper adblocker on PC (I mean, it is possible yet), Revanced on an Android phone, and Smart Tube Next on an Android TV setup box or capable TV (just to name a few options, especially of my setup).
Whether they deserve it or not isn’t in the calculation. They provide a website I use and provide me with a way to bypass their god awful ad placements while still providing a small amount of funding to those who create content on the platform. It’s not ideal, but it’s the web environment we’re in.
Going the free route is of course possible, but this one “just works” and doesn’t need anything more to than YouTube itself. Like I’ve said to another person: if there was no way to pay to remove ads I would just block ads. But my time is more valuable than my money. I don’t look down on those who do not subscribe. It’s what makes sense to me.
They provide a website I use and provide me with a way to bypass their god awful ad placements
Dark patterns in all splendor.
It’s not ideal, but it’s the web environment we’re in.
It’s the web environment we let to be and they know it, that is why Netflix started to block account sharing when the others didn’t care at all (and they might start doing so or already did), and why there does exist paid tiers with ads in some services and also why shrinkflation happens in our web environment and it will still existing.
Like I’ve said to another person: if there was no way to pay to remove ads I would just block ads.
Smart… A little spoiler alert… You’ll have to.
My Nvidia Shield TV Pro was sold as a gaming streaming device strongly, they got rid of their core feature (official support) and nowadays it does seem like a glorified Chromecast with the launcher update which half of the screen are just ads, people started to block it, downgrading or just replacing it with another launcher for good.
My point is, ads and streaming features are bonded and prone to happen at some time.
Heck, even sponsor material within the YouTube videos are a thing… And a big reason to keep using the aforementioned YT alternatives even if you are a YT premium user, and weather is needed to sustain content creators or pure greed by them, it is clear that it is not sufficient with whatever income gets to them with a YT premium subscription, but hey maybe if we ad some ads on top of the YT premium we can support them further.
I see your issues with it. Fact is I’m not forced to keep my subscription if Google decides to change its terms in a way where it no longer benefits me. Currently it does. It’s that simple. No dark pattern made me subscribe. I subscribed long before YouTube was as ridden with ads as people say it is these days. I dislike advertisements, not what YouTube gives me. It was an informed decision.
I’ve got it and like it AMA
Do you think everyone not paying is poor or greedy or entitled?
No.
Do you think that using adblocker is theft and on the same level as stealing a car?
(Just trying to make sure you’re not a linus in disguise)
Obviously it’s not like stealing a car and I’m pretty sure that’s a straw man, he just said it’s piracy, which I’d argue it is.
It’s like taking the train without paying, you aren’t inherently hurting anyone, but if no one pays/watches ads it’s not sustainable.
You remind me of the Simpsons episode where Marge was watching ads on Tivo because she felt bad for skipping them
I don’t. I do block adverts when I cannot pay to remove them.
I just hate the idea of paying so much not because great features but Google having beaten me into submission by taking away free features and introducing shitty stuff to force me to pay.
To be fair I never felt like Google beat me into submission. I pay for it because I consume so many hours of video that subscribing makes sense and gives some small amount to the creators I watch. That amount was zero before I subscribed, since I was blocking advertisements.
That said I do see the frustration. I don’t think they’ve gone about it in a great way.
Would you still pay for it if at some point google were to decide to add ads, even if less intrusive than in the free version?
If I have no way to remove ads I would block them. If payment doesn’t remove ads, I’ll unsubscribe and block them.
What do you feel about giving your money to a company that truly doesn’t deserve it and can fuck up its customers whenever they can? Even more when you can get YouTube Premium features easily for free with a proper adblocker on PC (I mean, it is possible yet), Revanced on an Android phone, and Smart Tube Next on an Android TV setup box or capable TV (just to name a few options, especially of my setup).
Whether they deserve it or not isn’t in the calculation. They provide a website I use and provide me with a way to bypass their god awful ad placements while still providing a small amount of funding to those who create content on the platform. It’s not ideal, but it’s the web environment we’re in.
Going the free route is of course possible, but this one “just works” and doesn’t need anything more to than YouTube itself. Like I’ve said to another person: if there was no way to pay to remove ads I would just block ads. But my time is more valuable than my money. I don’t look down on those who do not subscribe. It’s what makes sense to me.
Dark patterns in all splendor.
It’s the web environment we let to be and they know it, that is why Netflix started to block account sharing when the others didn’t care at all (and they might start doing so or already did), and why there does exist paid tiers with ads in some services and also why shrinkflation happens in our web environment and it will still existing.
Smart… A little spoiler alert… You’ll have to.
My Nvidia Shield TV Pro was sold as a gaming streaming device strongly, they got rid of their core feature (official support) and nowadays it does seem like a glorified Chromecast with the launcher update which half of the screen are just ads, people started to block it, downgrading or just replacing it with another launcher for good.
My point is, ads and streaming features are bonded and prone to happen at some time.
Heck, even sponsor material within the YouTube videos are a thing… And a big reason to keep using the aforementioned YT alternatives even if you are a YT premium user, and weather is needed to sustain content creators or pure greed by them, it is clear that it is not sufficient with whatever income gets to them with a YT premium subscription, but hey maybe if we ad some ads on top of the YT premium we can support them further.
I see your issues with it. Fact is I’m not forced to keep my subscription if Google decides to change its terms in a way where it no longer benefits me. Currently it does. It’s that simple. No dark pattern made me subscribe. I subscribed long before YouTube was as ridden with ads as people say it is these days. I dislike advertisements, not what YouTube gives me. It was an informed decision.
No one cares
No one cares that you don’t care
Fuckin speak for yourself. I care that he doesn’t care.
I dont give a fuck about not giving a fuck, so I do give a fuck… Wait what?
(I give a fuck…)
About anything, I love everyone and care about everything
(I give a fuck…)
I literally care about every motherfucking thing
I give a negative number of fucks, but that underflowed so now i give
1.845*10^19fucksThat’s a weird question!