• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    21 year ago

    COMUNISM is based on the fact that people are nice and honest and won’t abuse power.

    Shamefully, this has no correlation with real life.

    ANY AND ALL COMMUNIST LEADERS ARE DICTATORS

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          -21 year ago

          “No no, it’ll be better this time. I promise.”

          That is what “argument is purely against existing historical applications” immediately puts into my head.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              1
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              “Am I admitting that I don’t”

              Ok monkey, you’re talking about a system of governance that everyone would be a part of in the richest country on Earth. That country being filled with people who have all been taught that “fuck you I got mine” is the law of the world.

              Magically, somehow, in every one of every Communist garbage essays I’ve seen on this site; you people fail to recognize the key factor that will absolutely cause communism to fail. People. “No no, control will go to the right people, you’ll see!”

              Sick brigading, now shut the fuck up.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        -111 year ago

        Yesss! That works fine if your lefties are balanced with righties in a multinparty system in a modern healthy economy in a wester country. (e.g. EUROPE). it Shamefully does not work in ECUADOR, VENEZUELA ARGENTINA COLOMBIA PERÚ BRASIL And That’s Just the ones I know of.

        Let disregard us of a(holes). They don’t have politics, just LOBBYists

      • GrayoxOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        01 year ago

        Love how justmy2c is gonna ignore this comment because it completely destroys their argument.

          • GrayoxOP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            11 year ago

            Yup ignoring your actual argument about why Capitalism is better at regulating greed. Because they know it isn’t, they have to ignore that, and rely on whataboutisms, while ignoring the fact that Capitalism doesn’t even work on paper. Classic.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              11 year ago

              A small tiny example can be this: a communist government buys from China, shitty works, no guarantee, high interests, no local staff hired.

              A capitalist government buys (loans) from us and actually has an insurance and guarantee and warranty that their hidroeléctric dam will be finished and 100% of promised capacity.

              One is basically STEALING (with help of local president, in south am or Africa or Asia).

              The other may make rich people Richer.

              BUT AT LEAST THE PROJECT IS DONE.

              AND THE US IS NOT ASKING FOR 11% INTERÉS NOR FOR 3$ DISCOUNT ON EACH BARREL OF CRUDE. NOR TO SIGN AWAY THE GALÁPAGOS ISLANDS IF DEFAULT ON DEBT. (this is Ecuador, I can do Venezuela or argentina or african countries too, just let me know which you want a passionate lecture on.

              LET THE DOWNVOATS COMMENCE.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        -11 year ago

        If someone wasn’t nice and honest, and is willing to abuse power, what part of Communism specifically allows this to be taken advantage of?

        I guess in some forms a lack of authority to make sure people aren’t abusing each other

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          01 year ago

          No, it’s the lack of respect for common sense and the extreme greed of its leaders. Historically 99.99% of comunist leaders live lavish lifestyles, kids in private schools and holidays in miami

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        -7
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        If you’d really like to know, there is a Wikipedia page that has a huge list of dictators killing their OWN population. Even the Austrian painter called his party (Nazionale) socialist…

        But if you don’t count him, he would be one of the ONLY ones that has killed over a milion of their OWN people that was NOT a supposed communist.

        COMMUNISM IS A FANTASTIC IDEA!

        (but not more than that, unfortunately)

        I WILL VOTE COMMUNIST WHEN THEIR LEADER IS me. Or an Ai.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            -21 year ago

            DUDE I LIVE IN ECUADOR. shit ain’t a joke. Comunists are just drug cartels fooling the PLEBS.

            • GrayoxOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              21 year ago

              Ecuador isnt a communist government, you absolute moron.

              • @[email protected]
                link
                fedilink
                English
                11 year ago

                15 años de correistas hijodep I’m talking about 11% interest payments to China for projects that aren’t EVER finished… To give 100million to Cuba for generators that are NEVER delivered.

                That’s just a small taste of how a former president (Correa) can make 30 years of misery by signing away the country. Argentina even worse it’s now OWNED by China.

                • GrayoxOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  11 year ago

                  Estados Unidos sells a shit ton of its debt to China, doesnt make it a Communist country you absolute ham sandwich. Lol

                  • @[email protected]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    11 year ago

                    If they really so communist (the leaders) why spend money in Miami if you can spend in caracas Moscow Beijing and Havana?

                  • @[email protected]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    11 year ago

                    Of course not, my friend. The problem only arises when you make a BAD contract for 11% interest, discount on crude sales, overpriced project with 100% Chinese engineers and no warranty (just so Mr president can recieve some usd in cayman or Vatican # account…)

                • @Shardikprime
                  link
                  English
                  01 year ago

                  They hate you because you are right they don’t understand LATAM

                  • @[email protected]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    11 year ago

                    They may have visited for a month and talked to 40% of the people there tho, who are so uneducated they are indoctrinated by church and (state) political parties

    • Lemminary
      link
      English
      71 year ago

      Careful now, these are tankie-infested waters we sail teehee

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        -11 year ago

        I’m a brave soldier, they can call me what they want, but I’m ONLY RIGHT WING WHEN IN SOUTH AMERICA

        In Europe I’m left wing!

      • @Gabu
        link
        English
        -31 year ago

        Using “tankie” to mean anything left of center, truly the mark of a complete moron. By the way, rightwingers aren’t people and don’t deserve to enjoy the benefits of being people.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          41 year ago

          Where did he use tankie to describe anyone left of center? You did that. And then you dehumanized fellow human beings. Great job, asshole!

          • @Gabu
            link
            English
            -21 year ago

            For me to be dehumanizing them, rightwingers would have to be human to begin with. Which they’re not, as proved by them being rightwing.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              41 year ago

              Like it or not, rightwingers are just as human as you or me. No other creature on earth can hate like a human can. That’s a wholly human trait.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              21 year ago

              Also, you’re trending dangerously close to fascist rhetoric by dehumanizing your fellow man.

              • @Gabu
                link
                English
                -21 year ago

                Not really. There’s a very simple cure to not being rightwing: thinking for a single second and not acting like scum.

                • @[email protected]
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  11 year ago

                  Or visit south America for a decade to find out comunism isn’t that great either. EVERY SINGLE FAMILY IS AFFECTED WHEN INFLATION IS 200%

                  • @Gabu
                    link
                    English
                    -21 year ago

                    I live in South America, you moron.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              11 year ago

              Even IF they were animals, that just makes them even more worthy of respect by leeches like u

              • @Gabu
                link
                English
                -21 year ago

                Delete your account. Thanks.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          41 year ago

          Using “tankie” to mean anything left of center, truly the mark of a complete moron.

          By the way, rightwingers aren’t people and don’t deserve to enjoy the benefits of being people.

          Lmao

          • @Gabu
            link
            English
            -21 year ago

            I get that your tiny little mushroom of a brain thinks that’s some kind of gotcha on hypocrisy, but it really isn’t… I’m openly communist.

        • Lemminary
          link
          English
          01 year ago

          A complete moron would start to make accusations from assumptions instead of asking to clarify. I don’t mean “anything left of center”. I’m very left of center. But I do mean the militant and belligerent tankies of the Fediverse of which I see many. I wonder, did the shoe fit or is it an anger management issue?

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          -21 year ago

          So basically you don’t get banned on lemmy for calling people subhuman? Like the Austrian painter… On flikflok it gets you banned.

          Ps do you actually thing You Are Better. OR JUST THAT OTHERS ARE WORSE?

          • @Gabu
            link
            English
            01 year ago

            Please, use your two braincells to the utmost of their ability and try to create a coherent sentence.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              11 year ago

              Dude if you have trouble comprehending, just let me know what part and I’ll explain in detail.

              Downvote brigades arnt very nice, but they also are pretty lame.