It is, at least in part. This story cites a Washington Post article, which in turn brings up Project 2025.
An excerpt:
Much of the planning for a second term has been unofficially outsourced to a partnership of right-wing think tanks in Washington. Dubbed “Project 2025,” the group is developing a plan, to include draft executive orders, that would deploy the military domestically under the Insurrection Act, according to a person involved in those conversations and internal communications reviewed by The Washington Post. The law, last updated in 1871, authorizes the president to deploy the military for domestic law enforcement.
They explain earlier in the article that the use of the Insurrection Act would be in order to deploy the military to put down civilian inauguration day protests. It’s a little oddly written, in that it makes it sound like this is the main thrust of Project 2025, though they do eventually mention:
For other appointments, Trump would be able to draw on lineups of personnel prepared by Project 2025. Dans, a former Office of Personnel Management chief of staff, likened the database to a “conservative LinkedIn,” allowing applicants to present their resumes on public profiles, while also providing a shared workspace for Heritage and partner organizations to vet the candidates and make recommendations.
In any case, yeah, they’re not bothering to hide any of this. They know they control the media that their side hears.
Should this ever come to pass, it will be interesting to see if he can actually invoke it. The Insurrection Act has a very specific scope and circumstances for its invocation. Not that it matters to Trump, but the judges, federal personnel, legal experts, and military generals who would inevitably be affected aren’t stupid.
I can see it as a theoretical flash point for a future civil war, so I hope we don’t ever have to test the strength of our union that way.
Doesn’t matter if the people who exact justice aren’t stupid. Fascism happens right now; justice takes time. Trump and his ilk have been exploiting that gap for decades, and it works. That’s why they’ve gotten steadily stronger the whole time.
I’m more curious what the rank and file military would think, being mobilized against their own.
I’d like to think it wouldn’t go well as far as obedience. But, I also know a lot of old gray beards that would see that and make life as difficult as possible for them if it did come to pass.
I’m not a conspiracy person by any stretch of the imagination, but have you ever seen rednecks rally for a cause? They HATE being told what to do, and they’re… Let’s say ingenious when it comes down to it.
… Now I’m realizing that, in context, it could be either side. But I don’t see it happening.
I’m more curious what the rank and file military would think, …
As long as a sufficiently large enough minority of rank and file toe the fascist line, they will be successful enough. Good people will take pause, being reticent to “mobilize against their own.” Fascists will take no such pause.
A sufficiently large enough minority of the senior officer corps has to be on board as well. There’s no one in the enlisted ranks who knows how to operate the vast machinery of the US military. How does one operate a carrier group, for example, or an infantry division or even the nuclear arsenal? That shit is insanely complicated, and that’s not even mentioning logistics. The Pentagon would have to be on board or it would never work.
You don’t need carriers and nukes to do an incredible amount of physical and social damage, even if a full coup doesn’t end up working. Small arms and land vehicles would do it, if - again, a sufficiently large minority - they’re willing to dare anyone to stop them. Which they would most definitely do.
I see what you’re saying, but I think that assumes the rank and file haven’t had that “do what I want” mentality trained out of them, which they have. The military works, because the grunts follow orders from their chain of command.
If Trump is president and orders them to mobilize against protestors or political dissidents, and their chain of command says no, I do not think a sufficient number of soldiers will help Trump’s plans.
I honestly think they may draw the line at going after people like Milley. I know what rednecks are like when they rally for a cause, but if enough of their superiors and friends also serving have enough doubt at seeing where all this leads, they may say no.
Yep, all I know is that if this ever comes to pass I will be arming myself and doing what is necessary within reason to protect democracy. If that means civil war then that’s alright. “The strength of our union” is being tested as we speak.
Can we please outlaw biassed media? Yes yes yes, I know, media comes from people and is inherently biassed, but there is actual news media and there is the likes of oan and Fox News who both should be disbandoned and forbidden. Fuck that shit.
It is, at least in part. This story cites a Washington Post article, which in turn brings up Project 2025.
An excerpt:
They explain earlier in the article that the use of the Insurrection Act would be in order to deploy the military to put down civilian inauguration day protests. It’s a little oddly written, in that it makes it sound like this is the main thrust of Project 2025, though they do eventually mention:
In any case, yeah, they’re not bothering to hide any of this. They know they control the media that their side hears.
Source article (as linked at the start of OP’s article): https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/
Should this ever come to pass, it will be interesting to see if he can actually invoke it. The Insurrection Act has a very specific scope and circumstances for its invocation. Not that it matters to Trump, but the judges, federal personnel, legal experts, and military generals who would inevitably be affected aren’t stupid.
I can see it as a theoretical flash point for a future civil war, so I hope we don’t ever have to test the strength of our union that way.
Doesn’t matter if the people who exact justice aren’t stupid. Fascism happens right now; justice takes time. Trump and his ilk have been exploiting that gap for decades, and it works. That’s why they’ve gotten steadily stronger the whole time.
I’m more curious what the rank and file military would think, being mobilized against their own.
I’d like to think it wouldn’t go well as far as obedience. But, I also know a lot of old gray beards that would see that and make life as difficult as possible for them if it did come to pass.
I’m not a conspiracy person by any stretch of the imagination, but have you ever seen rednecks rally for a cause? They HATE being told what to do, and they’re… Let’s say ingenious when it comes down to it.
… Now I’m realizing that, in context, it could be either side. But I don’t see it happening.
As long as a sufficiently large enough minority of rank and file toe the fascist line, they will be successful enough. Good people will take pause, being reticent to “mobilize against their own.” Fascists will take no such pause.
A sufficiently large enough minority of the senior officer corps has to be on board as well. There’s no one in the enlisted ranks who knows how to operate the vast machinery of the US military. How does one operate a carrier group, for example, or an infantry division or even the nuclear arsenal? That shit is insanely complicated, and that’s not even mentioning logistics. The Pentagon would have to be on board or it would never work.
You don’t need carriers and nukes to do an incredible amount of physical and social damage, even if a full coup doesn’t end up working. Small arms and land vehicles would do it, if - again, a sufficiently large minority - they’re willing to dare anyone to stop them. Which they would most definitely do.
I see what you’re saying, but I think that assumes the rank and file haven’t had that “do what I want” mentality trained out of them, which they have. The military works, because the grunts follow orders from their chain of command.
If Trump is president and orders them to mobilize against protestors or political dissidents, and their chain of command says no, I do not think a sufficient number of soldiers will help Trump’s plans.
I honestly think they may draw the line at going after people like Milley. I know what rednecks are like when they rally for a cause, but if enough of their superiors and friends also serving have enough doubt at seeing where all this leads, they may say no.
I hope, at least.
Yep, all I know is that if this ever comes to pass I will be arming myself and doing what is necessary within reason to protect democracy. If that means civil war then that’s alright. “The strength of our union” is being tested as we speak.
If it comes to pass then arming yourself is too late.
You’ll need to have arms before then. People talk about the second amendment and that scenario is exactly why it exists.
Yeah, we left-wing people have needed to start arming ourselves and training for years now.
Can we please outlaw biassed media? Yes yes yes, I know, media comes from people and is inherently biassed, but there is actual news media and there is the likes of oan and Fox News who both should be disbandoned and forbidden. Fuck that shit.