• @aidan
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      111 months ago

      You can restructure society to not require profit.

      How do you define profit? If you mean creating value- no, you can’t. Life requires consumption of value. That is food, that is water, and medicine.

      The economy exists currently purely to increase consumption

      No. It exists because people want to exchange what they have for what they want.

        • @aidan
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          111 months ago

          So your issue is people consensually exchanging their labor?

            • @karakoram
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              111 months ago

              That’s no strawman. You just refuse to see that there is no universal way to decide upon value that fits everyone’s notion of it. If both people in an exchange come away satisfied, did one exploit the other? How do you strictly define the excess value on each side of the transaction? Your idea of a profit-less society doesn’t consider how we’d pragmatically exchange our labor to achieve that.

                • @karakoram
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                  111 months ago

                  We aren’t mind readers. If you think we are wrong, explain why. You can call an attempt at defining your poor communication a strawman, but it only shields your ideas from the test of debate.