The car thing is insane, even when you explain that you live in as regional area with limited options AND that I can drive to work in 20mins vs 60mins on public transport, you still get yelled at.
Sure. I get that. Where I get kinda confused by some people (not blaming you for this!) is when the extrapolation comes out. “We need cars to cross this massive gap between cities, and that’s why we shouldn’t build this tram line in the middle of this densely populated city”. Similarly, just because I think we should (talking about the EU here) make big investments into rail and ban short-haul flights, that doesn’t mean I don’t see the value in transatlantic flights.
Sorry for venting, Romania’s a shithole when it comes to cars compared to the rest of the EU.
If you replace “cities” with “rural towns” you might have a better understanding of why we still need cars in regional areas.
Australia is HUGE, the rural towns are far apart and have low populations.
You can’t run a bus/train every 10-20mins for 3 people, you run a bus/train ever 2hrs for 40 people, and they’ll never change.
I’m all for accessible cities, for those that want to live in them, but you’ll never get me away from my quiet rural life on the edge of regional centre. The reality is the transport in my town of 40,000 people has an insignificant impact on the environment compared Sydney, for example, with +5,000,000 people.
I do get that for some situations and regions, cars are immensely valuable. I also could not agree more about the difference in environmental impact between dense, populous cities where everyone has a car and small rural towns where everyone has a car. That should be pretty self-evident.
All I was trying to say is that here in Bucharest you have some idiots that talk about cars and their necessity as if we’re in the Australian outback, where no alternative could ever be possible.
We must realize that most actually town-concepts and public transport are build to seduce you to buy a car. (Mostly in western countries, where the car industry is one of the main successors.)
Oh the market is 40 min away and outside of the town and the bus only drives every two hours, well better buy a car or get lost.
Back to the 15-min Town, the concept is, there is everything you need for living (market, doctor, schools etc.) in an area you can reach in 15 min without a car.
You can’t compare rural France and rural Australia, the cities sure, build your 15min cities anywhere the population density suits it, but it doesn’t work in regional Australia.
The car thing is insane, even when you explain that you live in as regional area with limited options AND that I can drive to work in 20mins vs 60mins on public transport, you still get yelled at.
The sane ones make a decent point about infrastructure (I’m definitely anti-car).
Blaming the individual for the lack of realistic options provided by the government is pretty nuts.
I’m in regional Australia, it’s unrealistic to ever expect public transport to overtake private transport, we’re too spread out.
I minimise my driving, but I couldn’t survive without my own car, it’s not a black and white issue.
Sure. I get that. Where I get kinda confused by some people (not blaming you for this!) is when the extrapolation comes out. “We need cars to cross this massive gap between cities, and that’s why we shouldn’t build this tram line in the middle of this densely populated city”. Similarly, just because I think we should (talking about the EU here) make big investments into rail and ban short-haul flights, that doesn’t mean I don’t see the value in transatlantic flights.
Sorry for venting, Romania’s a shithole when it comes to cars compared to the rest of the EU.
If you replace “cities” with “rural towns” you might have a better understanding of why we still need cars in regional areas.
Australia is HUGE, the rural towns are far apart and have low populations.
You can’t run a bus/train every 10-20mins for 3 people, you run a bus/train ever 2hrs for 40 people, and they’ll never change.
I’m all for accessible cities, for those that want to live in them, but you’ll never get me away from my quiet rural life on the edge of regional centre. The reality is the transport in my town of 40,000 people has an insignificant impact on the environment compared Sydney, for example, with +5,000,000 people.
I do get that for some situations and regions, cars are immensely valuable. I also could not agree more about the difference in environmental impact between dense, populous cities where everyone has a car and small rural towns where everyone has a car. That should be pretty self-evident.
All I was trying to say is that here in Bucharest you have some idiots that talk about cars and their necessity as if we’re in the Australian outback, where no alternative could ever be possible.
Just check the 15min-Town idea created in France.
We must realize that most actually town-concepts and public transport are build to seduce you to buy a car. (Mostly in western countries, where the car industry is one of the main successors.)
Oh the market is 40 min away and outside of the town and the bus only drives every two hours, well better buy a car or get lost.
Back to the 15-min Town, the concept is, there is everything you need for living (market, doctor, schools etc.) in an area you can reach in 15 min without a car.
Australia, 7.8M Km², 26M people.
France, 0.5M Km², 65M people.
You can’t compare rural France and rural Australia, the cities sure, build your 15min cities anywhere the population density suits it, but it doesn’t work in regional Australia.