To help contribute, here’s the only meme I’ve ever done, which I did in response to news that Abrams was working on a new ST movie. And after seeing how well the franchise is going with SNW and LD, I feel it’s even more appropriate.

  • @SinningStromgald
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    511 year ago

    I love me some JJ Abrams hate. The man deserves it all and sooo much more.

    • @ummthatguy
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      441 year ago

      What’s annoying is that he’s good at pacing and creating intrigue. He just never knows how stick the landing without turning the plot into swiss cheese.

      • edric
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        1 year ago

        He’s a great visual director, but he needs a good writer to keep him in check.

          • SSTF
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            1 year ago

            Jorge is a fantastically creative guy. He needs limitations on that creativity, but he is undeniably a foundation of ideas.

            JJ Abrams mostly regurgitates without having any truly unique ideas. Anything unique he does have is either a subversion or an unfinished mystery concept that’s film student tier. Especially in Star Wars and Trek, he took a bunch of the most surface level aspects from the franchises and threw them in without really doing anything with them.

            • Sentient Loom
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              211 year ago

              His black box storytelling is garbage and the coincidence-based plot in that SW movie was unforgivable.

              • @[email protected]
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                111 year ago

                What’s even funnier is when he tells how he came up with his “mystery box” method. He tries to play it off as some kind of profound insightful story from his childhood about magic shops. But then he explains it as the magic shops would package the junk that didn’t sell into an unmarked “mystery box” to create intrigue which duped people into buying it. He outright admits he’s selling junk

                • Sentient Loom
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                  61 year ago

                  Yeah. In that Jon Stewart interview he straight up says that he never liked Star Trek and that “Star Trek was always too philosophical for me.”

                  He sucks so bad.

              • SSTF
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                61 year ago

                Not in that SW movie. In two of those SW movies.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 year ago

            I’ll add that this didn’t start with the SW prequel movies either. The various essays on the topic typically focus on The Phantom Menace to make this case (see: Red Letter Media); we do love to hate on that movie. But if you look to early drafts of the very first Star Wars movie script, it’s clear that it took a village to make it more than B-movie material. Also, the making-of stories are complete with every kind of move-making person improving and adding to our producer’s vision, right down to salvaging the whole mess in the editing room. It’s been a problem the entire time.

            Now I wonder if THX-1138 and American Graffiti have similar war-stories behind them.

      • @[email protected]
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        141 year ago

        Creating intrigue is relatively straightforward if you don’t worry about sticking the landing.

        • @samus12345
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          41 year ago

          Yup. Have weird shit happen, don’t bothering explaining why.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 year ago

          Basically, writing movies like running a 100% improvised DnD campaign. Which is to say it’s great, as long as your audience signed up for repeated intellectual kicks to the groin.

      • @Hugin
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        81 year ago

        Is he good at pacing? His movies are just go go go go without any room to breathe.