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  • @jeffwOP
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    For the sake of argument… if I hear you beating your dog, should I break down the door to stop it?

    Yes, I could call 911, but by the time they arrive the sounds would stop and they’d have no probable cause. I could go in and steal the dog or even just record a video right now. What is the ethical thing to do?

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      Not really an apples to apples comparison (unfortunately). Cows have fewer rights than dogs.

      You would be within your rights to do something about the dog scenario, and the law would support you. Cows, on the other hand, are seen as products or machines, so “doing the ethical thing” would be looked at as if you were trying to steal someone’s car.

      I agree that it’s not right, but that’s why these activists are arrested, instead of the animal owners.

      • @Kittengineer
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        81 year ago

        In many ways this is the tip of the spear for changing the laws.

        The same was done for any equal rights battle- blacks, women, etc. “illegal” acts had to be done.

    • @AliceTheMinotaur
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      If only there was a device that can fit in your pocket that could record such things as well as allow you to call the cops

      • Fushuan [he/him]
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        191 year ago

        If only the OP was allowed to present those recording and videos taken through their magical pocket device in court.

        • @AliceTheMinotaur
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          -31 year ago

          There’s these people called the police, may be you present it to them, if they don’t do anything may be try getting that changed instead of breaking the law yourself

          • @[email protected]
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            41 year ago

            You know about Ag-Gag laws? They lobby with your money for such laws if you consume animal products.

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            And when decades of lobbying to change the laws don’t work and the animals are still being abused?

            Edit: lol at people downvoting this. Do you think there isn’t physical abuse going on here? The ag gag laws are working I guess, but footage of the abuse is out there

            • @AliceTheMinotaur
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              -21 year ago

              If you don’t want to do anything about it that’s a you probem

              • @jeffwOP
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                41 year ago

                What are people supposed to do besides lobby? Lobbying didn’t work.

                Are you against all climate change protests too? Animal agriculture is one of the biggest drivers of climate change, so you probably hate Greta Thunberg, since she commits so many crimes and is always getting arrested, right?

      • @jeffwOP
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        61 year ago

        So I SHOULD break in and record it, like the group in this Vox article has done? Your comments seem to be against them, but then you make statements that sound like they’re defending these actions.