Hospitals have been caught in the crossfire during the Israel-Hamas war — both literally and in the clashing narratives of the conflict.

JERUSALEM (AP) — The head of surgery at Gaza’s largest and most advanced hospital held up his phone Saturday to the hammering of gunfire and artillery shelling. “Listen,” said Dr. Marwan Abu Sada as fighting raged around Shifa Hospital.

  • @[email protected]
    47•7 months ago

    Because Israel is committing war crimes. Because Israel has stated, unequivocally, that Palestinians are animals and must be scourged off the face of the earth.

      • @[email protected]
        1•7 months ago

        Oh, Hamas is airstriking hospitals and refugee camps too? No? They’re not? Only Israel is doing that?

        Why wouldn’t this genocide be blamed on the ones committing it? Use your head.

        • Neon 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇹🇼🇮🇱
          1•7 months ago
          1. you’re not seriously saying that Hamas isn’t targeting civilians and advocating genocide, right?
          2. the Problem is that Hamas could very well be using civilian installations as cover. Hamas has shown that it doesn’t care at all about Palestinians and is willing to sacrifice them if they can kill Israelis. This makes it impossible for the International Community to Condemn the Actions of Nettanyahus Government, because it may very well have been a Hamas-Base

          Also: It’s Nettanyahu, not Israel. If I’m going to separate the Actions of Hamas from the Palestinian People, i can expect you to do the same.

      • @[email protected]
        7•7 months ago

        Intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime.

        And before you bring up human shields, the only ones to do so were the Israelis in operation Cast Lead. Read up on it of you don’t know. If you do and still say this, then you’re a genocidaire and I don’t give a shit what you say.

        • @[email protected]English
          2•7 months ago

          I’m reading through the Wikipedia article and don’t see anything about the Israelis using human shields. Part of it mentions Hamas using human shields, hiding under hospitals, keeping weapons in houses or mosques, etc.

          Can you help narrow it down for me which part you’re talking about?

          • @[email protected]
            3•7 months ago

            https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/mde150152009en.pdf

            Page 48.

            Israel does a good job of making the world forget their actions.

            According to testimonies, in several cases Israeli forces also forced unarmed Palestinian civilian males (mostly adults but in two cases also children) to serve as “human shields”, including making them walk in front of armed soldiers; go into buildings to check for booby traps or gunmen; and inspect suspicious objects for explosives. These practices are not new. Numerous such cases have been documented in recent years and the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled that such practices contradict International law and prohibited them in October 2005.73

      • @[email protected]
        32•7 months ago

        Can you please reread what you just said? You’re saying it’s okay to kill children and innocent people in order to kill someone else you actually want to kill?

          • @theluckyone
            9•7 months ago

            " Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

            Friedrich Nietzsche

          • @[email protected]
            6•7 months ago

            Not yours. Israel isn’t doing a thing in Qatar.

            You’re either a liar or you believe in obvious lies.

        • @Argonne
          -25•7 months ago

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          • @SasquatchBanana
            31•7 months ago

            Hamas isn’t forcing Israel to commit war crimes.

              • @jimbo
                8•4 months ago

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              • @[email protected]
                5•7 months ago

                Could you cite that law for me? Because last I checked there is no such law forcing Isreal to shoot back, school or otherwise.

                Intentionally bombing civilians is a war crime. I don’t care how many of your “intended targets” you think you’re getting. If you are bombing civilian centers, like, oh let’s say a hospital for instance, then you are a war criminal, Full stop. There is nothing forcing Isreal to do that.

          • @spirinolas
            15•7 months ago

            So, if Hamas hid in a Israeli hospital would it be justifiable to bomb it?

          • @jimbo
            10•4 months ago

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            • @[email protected]
              -2•7 months ago

              Yeah I guess they can just do nothing and die from the bombs and missiles that Hamas is firing from their civil headquarters

              • @jimbo
                3•4 months ago

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              • 𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙English
                3•7 months ago

                If you read the article it outlines what international law says:

                Even if Israel succeeds in proving Shifa conceals a Hamas command center, the tenets of international law remain in place, said Jessica Wolfendale, expert in military ethics at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio.

                “It doesn’t license an instant attack,” she said. “Steps need to be taken to protect the innocent as much as possible.”

                If the harm to civilians is disproportionate to the military objective, the attack is illegal under international law.

                They need to not only provide proof beforehand but also take steps to mitigate innocent death and injury.

                • @FakinUpCountryDegen
                  -2•7 months ago

                  That’s not true, however.

                  The Geneva convention is extremely clear that any civilian structure used as cover for military operations is fair game. It’s not even up for debate.

      • @Madison420
        26•7 months ago

        You really think using human shields is really a good excuse to bomb hospitals. “they’re using hostages! Quick teach those hostages a goddamn guided 2000lb lesson!”

          • @Madison420
            4•7 months ago

            Look hamas killing “millions” is unlikely given they haven’t topped 5000.

            Coolio. So lemme grab your kids take them hostage and you can tell me again that murdering me and your children is the only solution to hostage situation.

      • @[email protected]
        21•7 months ago

        There is clear evidence that at least some hospitals were alleged to be Hamas operation centers but in fact were not. But even if they were operation centers, would you still think it’s justified? How many Hamas members are worth how many “accidental” deaths of hospital staff and patients? Who would even dream of making such a formula? It’s sick.

        The issue at hand is about hospitals being destroyed, not about the Israel-Palestine conflict on the whole. Please save your “no side is right” language for an issue where that actually applies.

      • @SasquatchBanana
        12•7 months ago

        Would you say the same thing is the US was the one shelling hospitals?