Renewables capacity needs to increase substantially and hydrogen and derivatives need an eight-fold increase to meet a Pathway to Net Zero (PNZ) by 2050, according to DNV’s Energy Transition Outlook 2023 report.

  • snooggums
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    11 year ago

    Look, there are multiple things going on and you are dismissing one criticism because one part of the process is lagging behind.

    Electric and hydrogen vehicles are awesome! The both reduce pollution in cities and places where people live by reducing it at the point of use. We absolutely need to continue the work on the use of hydrogen fuel cells for applications for the same reason as electric, primarily the short term benefits and the long term potential of being 100% renewable.

    I mean my first response was that we needed to focus on more renewable methods for producing hydrogen because right now the fossil fuel companies are set up to benefit immediately from any increase and that will just incentivize them to spread more misinformation as the renewables get sorted out.

    • HypxOP
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      11 year ago

      Then you can stop with the conspiracy theories and just accept hydrogen as a good idea.

      • snooggums
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        11 year ago

        I still don’t know what conspiracy theory you are going on about.

        • HypxOP
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          11 year ago

          You started saying that it is just a way for oil companies to sell more oil. That’s literally your first post in this thread. That is the conspiracy theory.

          • snooggums
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            11 year ago

            No, I said since oil companies currently account for 95% of hydrogen production and no scalable alternatives currently exist, oil companies will be excited to see increased demand for their products. They stand to benefit from any increase unless an alternate comes up and that is a fact, not a conspiracy.

            I did not say oil companies were the ones promoting hydrogen. Wouldn’t be surprised, but made no such claim.

            • HypxOP
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              11 year ago

              You can say the same thing about coal companies and BEVs. It’s totally missing the point. The non-conspiracy version of events will find that all fossil fuel companies are terrified of green technology. None of them are actually supporting green technology beyond pushing a few side-projects.

              You’re implying that it is the case. That is still doing the same thing.

              • snooggums
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                11 year ago

                I just can’t see someone going to such lengths to defend oil companies without being a shill for them.

                Have fun with that.

                • HypxOP
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                  11 year ago

                  Because, again, this is a conspiracy theory. People have an issue with your quasi-climate change denial. People are “going to such lengths” because they think you are opposing progress and trying to sabotage solutions to climate change.