There really isn’t one. Wayland is maturing and app support is following.
This is the way things always go in open source. I’m betting soon there will be a distro that will announce a never Wayland stance just like Devuan prior.
It’s been working for a while unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean by screen capture. But I’ve been using OBS on KDE Wayland capturing via portals for months now with issues.
I just tried it. Create a “Screen capture (PipeWire)” source, there’s a popup asking you to pick a display or “Full Workspace” which shares everything.
Judging by post & history. They are just a troll.
As for this article. I don’t understand why anyone bothers sharing it. It is one of the most hot garbage ones I have seen. Most of this article gives arguments that are either old, have no relevance here or are just plainly cherrypicked (the jitsi one for example, open the link and see the last comment, that they quoted). Most things are also application side issue with no relevance for wayland devs.
“Oh my app does not work in wayland? Must be wayland’s fault!” This is a rubbish logicless argument.
If one wants to not use Wayland, they are welcome. But things like “Boycott Wayland” are irritating to those who do want to use Wayland because they know how Xorg is.
How about an example of Wayland forcing me to use GNOME like this rant alleges? I hate GNOME but have been using KDE with Wayland for like two years now.
Same. Not to mention that there’s window managers in development if people prefer that. Some examples I know include Sway for those who want something like i3, Wayfire for those who miss Compiz and Hyprland for a more polished tiled experience. Hyprland in particular I’d recommend as I’ve personally had no luck with X.org compositors like Picom - didn’t work with my GPU.
The one that bother me the most about Wayland is the future of *BSD desktop. Can you run Wayland on NetBSD/FreeBSD yet? Also, currently you can run x server on Mac so you can run X11 apps remotely for example. Is there any attempt to make waypipe work on MacOS?
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Seems they need some updates. OBS, Zoom and Xfce are all happy to work toward Wayland, and OBS/Zoom both work pretty well on it, so 🤷
And no telling what else has changed since; checks notes; 2016?
Obs works fine for me, what’s the issue,?
There really isn’t one. Wayland is maturing and app support is following.
This is the way things always go in open source. I’m betting soon there will be a distro that will announce a never Wayland stance just like Devuan prior.
last i checked (a week ago) screen capture in OBS wasn’t working on Wayland KDE
It’s been working for a while unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean by screen capture. But I’ve been using OBS on KDE Wayland capturing via portals for months now with issues.
It works. You simply need the kde portal and pipewire installed
I just tried it. Create a “Screen capture (PipeWire)” source, there’s a popup asking you to pick a display or “Full Workspace” which shares everything.
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Judging by post & history. They are just a troll. As for this article. I don’t understand why anyone bothers sharing it. It is one of the most hot garbage ones I have seen. Most of this article gives arguments that are either old, have no relevance here or are just plainly cherrypicked (the jitsi one for example, open the link and see the last comment, that they quoted). Most things are also application side issue with no relevance for wayland devs. “Oh my app does not work in wayland? Must be wayland’s fault!” This is a rubbish logicless argument. If one wants to not use Wayland, they are welcome. But things like “Boycott Wayland” are irritating to those who do want to use Wayland because they know how Xorg is.
Aka Python 3 isn’t Turing complete
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This is a rambling of how Wayland supposedly forces everybody to use GNOME, which is BS.
The rant even includes an admission that the author didn’t even know what Wayland was when it was written.
Yeah when you write a novel about a window manager you can totally just not use, it raises questions about you, not those side eyeing you for it
How about an example of Wayland forcing me to use GNOME like this rant alleges? I hate GNOME but have been using KDE with Wayland for like two years now.
Same. Not to mention that there’s window managers in development if people prefer that. Some examples I know include Sway for those who want something like i3, Wayfire for those who miss Compiz and Hyprland for a more polished tiled experience. Hyprland in particular I’d recommend as I’ve personally had no luck with X.org compositors like Picom - didn’t work with my GPU.
it’s weird how this gist was updated 3 hours ago but still contains lots of claims that haven’t been accurate for years
Literally just posted a response to this article: https://feddit.uk/post/4608014
The one that bother me the most about Wayland is the future of *BSD desktop. Can you run Wayland on NetBSD/FreeBSD yet? Also, currently you can run x server on Mac so you can run X11 apps remotely for example. Is there any attempt to make waypipe work on MacOS?
Yes, FreeBSD already allows running Wayland. On my FreeBSD box, I have run it just fine.
OpenBSD are also working towards it.
I’m not sure about NetBSD.
FreeBSD runs Wayland just fine. I run it on one of my boxes.
OpenBSD is also working on Wayland support.
NetBSD I’m unsure of, as their development pace is quite slow.