• @Zoboomafoo
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    11 months ago

    Then go back and reread my comment three up in this thread where I said that the DoI was a statement of values, and the Constitution is an attempt to make a goverment based on those values

    • Flying Squid
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      Then, again, what makes a document written before America existed where we get American values from? They would not be American values if they were written before there was an America.

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        11 months ago

        In Congress, July 4, 1776

        The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, …

        America didn’t begin with the signing of the Constitution.

        • Flying Squid
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          It absolutely did. Those states still operated as independent entities. They were united on the issue of declaring independence. Until the Constitution was signed, the states were not united as a nation.

          • @Zoboomafoo
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            Do you think Rome didn’t exist before Caesar Augustus took power?

            Did England spring from William of Normandy’s forehead fully formed, clad in a wool coat and singing Rule Brittania?

            • Flying Squid
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              Neither of those were multiple independent nations.

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                Neither were the 13 colonies

                • Flying Squid
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                  What’s your point? It wasn’t one country yet either. I mean that seems to support what I was saying…