• @orrk
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    11 year ago

    it really isn’t, the only thing keeping them from going full on holocaust on the Palestinians is international pressure, because Israel exists at “the pleasure of the west” in general.

    Ironically, the only reason Gaza doesn’t have their own Power and Water production is because Israel bombed it a long time ago and refuses to let it be fixed, because the bibi government uses it as a tool to influence Gaza, hilariously to support Hamas.

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        11 year ago

        you do realize that the current ruling powers in Israel consist in part of literally anti-Muslim terrorists who have dedicated their lives, and publically call for the historic Jewish homeland (from the Euphrates to the Red Sea) to be cleansed of Muslims and retaken for the Jewish people, they literally mirror Nazi rhetoric, (and ironically call holocaust survivors that disagreed with them antisemites), and the other calling for a full on apartheid state and for territorial expansion via annexation.

        As for the idea that the Gaza power plant would just be out of fuel, that contradicts any number of local reports from various NGOs and even the UN, and judging by the Israeli track record in the area i will believe the other sources over them.

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            11 year ago

            Some argue they perform apartheid on the Palestinian people but those under a different administration. By this logic, every state can be considered apartheid because citizens of that state have in that state more rights than non-citizens. That’s standard.

            most of the world isn’t the sovereign in control of the other countries, nor do Americans just annex towns in Canada every few weeks

            Democracy index? which one? the economist? they don’t care much about things like civil rights, as long as the majority of the population can vote, the government can enact + Radicalize legislation, if you actually looked up the methodology of the ranking (remember other nations in the same ranking as Israel still have legislation making being LGBT+ illegal and other such things)

            18.7% of the population? that’s less than the Armenians in Turkey.

            and lastly, on the apartheid regime; if multiple Israeli human rights NGOs, the UN-HRC, Amnesty int., HRW, and even the Israeli supreme court have said it is an apartheid regime then maybe it is.

              • @orrk
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                11 year ago

                The point of the LGBT+ thing was pointing out that the definition of “democracy” the Economist uses, doesn’t include civil rights (tho if you want to start comparing the treatment of LGBTQ+ people Israel isn’t even the best in the M.east).

                as for 18.7% being a considerable amount of people, thus can’t be apartheid state is a massive nothingburger seeing as we have seen genocides happen to larger groups.

                and in context of the European commission, I recommend you read their actual answer, because the “Israel is not an apartheid state” bit is politics, read the rest, and it’s basically admitting that the Israeli state clearly disregards the civil rights of group/s