The super power to say “i was there!” but other than that i dont think so, I mean most thing you do remember would pretty much be less than the info you can look up on the internet xD
In general I would also say followers are the same or close to fan service, it depends a lot on the relationship. If there is no romance but they follow MC because MC has that kind of power then i am all for it for example like AOB I mean lutz is kinda of a follower of myne and Benne is pretty much a fan of hers too but he is a tshunder and she also got her priests xD
I actually liked harems a lot before(over 15 years ago) harem is kinda like what isekai is today, almost always in a fantasy world, very game like, save the world from the demon king, MC is loved by all after some chapters. Always the same troupes (some got very boring because just like isekai was the same…all…the…time). Most MCs was often irritating but some were actually very cool and reliable, i liked reading those. But i never cared for the romance parts. Love hina was one of my first mangas, I was maybe 8 when i read it in the library, now later in life does it feel a bit weird that a kid could read that, but i was so innocent 😂 I wouldn’t look for harem now. I am pretty sure it is still the typical shonen stuff that we both have said we dislike 😂
I actually started reading AoB again. I just found out something… I never read the first volume! I remember thinking it felt like i was thrown into the manga in the middle but it said chapter 1 so i kinda just let it slide because the manga source i read it from never had multiple volumes spread out like bato.to can do sometimes. I read now the first volume and could tell i missed out a lot of character building. Myne was a lot more annoying in the beginning 😂 I finished that volume yesterday and in the comment section did someone link to the second volume saying it has been picked up again and that was the one i read thinking it was all. I bet there is a “third” volume that i will find out also exist (and that is why my source said it stopped being translated years ago), so i have been lied to!!! hahahah Better for me :D
I will follow your advise and look up the novel. I actually read the novel parts that they leave in the manga and it really makes the manga better, helps understanding ppls action more. The manga has Myne in the center so you can only assume some are assholes without knowing why they act like they do. It also helps you see what kind of effect she has, like creating opportunities for craftsmen (that she will never know she did).
I will also read jobless as a novel!! I never thought to look up if it exists as one! The world building and characters are so great in that one!! And the motives for the characters are very well written! I also like that everything is so human (?), for example the characters forget sometimes that what they feel isn’t always true for others and that everyone do not know what they know or feel if they don’t say anything. I think the author is very good at telling us the readers what the characters thinks and putting all the other characters in the dark.
Usually is everything so dumbed down and for some reason everyone understand everyone so well and MC have no setbacks. His biggest problems are usually physical like traveling a long distance or their being monsters in the way but that wont be a problem for long. The MC will find a strong person who so happens to have a problem that MC can help with and then the strong person starts to like MC a bit too much for such a short time and then help MC for example teleport MC… Everything doesn’t have to be solved! and it doesn’t have to be solved right away! that is how i feel about most mangas… they are always so narrow minded and just run through everything to get to their goal.
yea MTL really kills the joy of reading. There was a time i didn’t mind, there were also a time i started to think about just translating it my self and then i found Death mage and now i can’t read anything worse in quality 😂This is also one of the reason why i like reading manga, the translation is often very good or good enough compared to manhua… if the translation wasn’t so bad then maybe i would had to tried to read it a bit more, even tho the whole world/character building seems to be a joke.
I haven’t seen many who read, but it could just be that just like I, they keep the manga reading at home haha
When i have talked with ppl about it have most only seen a few animes like pokemon, sailor moon, dragon ball and so on. I don’t remember anyone saying they read or have read manga. Except for two ppl (when i was a kid). Studio Gihbli movies have pretty much everyone seen, but I don’t see that as anime, it is very different from your typical anime.
Oh really? The mangakas i have seen in their work environment used a tablet, but it is true they were all pretty young (30 or less) so that could be why, i just assumed they had switch to a digital medium because of that haha
I have now drunk it and so did my family and extended family, they all said they liked it :D My parents and I tried it first just in case and all of us got pleasantly surprised haha
I dont know how to describe the taste of rhubarb, it doesn’t taste like anything else i have eaten. It is sweet but also very sour so you need to add a bit of sugar hence the white syrup. It is also great for cleaning the pot from burned food 😂 I think it is because it has a lot of acid in it.
I make rhubarb cream every summer. I grew up with rhubarb cream and rhubarb pie.
Try it out it was great :D I made it a bit simpler and didn’t mix it all together with the prosecco and had more prosecco then he had (i have had drinks before with sorbet and prosecco and they did not mix it that is why i didnt do it), so it was more like a sorbet with prosecco it created a very nice balance between the bitter prosecco and sweet sorbet. You can also use the red parts to make water melon sorbet too but I ate it as is. A cold watermelon is great in summer because it has so much water in it and cools you down a lot!
I looked up the midsummer movie on imdb, it looks like they made our festival/party into a cult, so i can see why it is a horror movie 😂
Our company give us some book options to pick from every year to read (if we want to). I haven’t picked one up yet. But i am looking forward to it :D It is very nice to read a book while swinging in the wind in a hammock. It is pretty hard to do that with the sun glaring at the phone.
Dude I have never and i hope i will never live through a cyclone, seems pretty scary, nature can really wreak havoc. You don’t need to get to a shelter?
Thanks friendo. Your sacrifice is much appreciated
I suppose it depends on the nature of followers; plain friends and employee is fine, but simple fanatics are cringe - I actually don’t mind fanatics who are well-developed. Unfortuantely simple fanatics are what seem to be the most common
Honestly I don’t mind Harems themselves- some of them were a functionaly poly relationship (like Jobless Reincarnation). I just HATED how they are implemented because of the indecisiveness and pointlessness of the characters, lack of development and crappiness that favored extension of drama over resolution.
All the best with the novels for AoB and Jobless - there are legal channels and also the option to sail the high seas, whichever is easier for you.
Lol I get what you mean. Not to mention how every character is either a master plotter or an idiot who wears their hearts on their sleeves, becuase every interaction between these fellows must be an easy-to-digest nicelty wrapped up plot point.
Jobless’ world is really one of my favs - it’s a basic setting, but everything fits well together and the lore makes sense. and yes the characters! All of them are three-dimensional, and work together while not knowing every single feeling that the others are feeling.
A good translator is such a blessing - I only read some chinese webnovels till completion (all 1500-1800 chapters of them), because the translators were so passionate about it and it showed in their work. I started reading Death Mage btw, I’m not 100% into the story yet, but the translations are pretty nice.
I have mixed feelings about MTL. On one hand they are grating to read through, on another hand they’re so rough you can fill in the gaps however you want. I kinda feel like the guy
Huh your description of Rhubarb reminds me of Gooseberries for some reason - though I imagine Gooseberries are much sourer - but the way you use them is kinda similar. We use honey or syrup to sweeten gooseberries for drinks and making candies, but have never them for pies.
Thanks for the recipe, It does look delicious. Summer’s almost done on our side of the globe, so this’ll probably be a recipe for a bit later - or when one of those irregular humid days come by. God you’re so right about watermelons though - biting into one when you’re dehydrated is exhilarating. Watermelon + Pineapple combo is uber.
Hahaha taking a jolly festival and converting it into a cultist horror seems like a trope at this point
I have this one memory in my mind - sitting on a bench by a lake, a mini glass bottle of a mango drink, a packet of potato chips in one hand and a book in the other, enjoying the breeze as a listen to the waters of the lake splash gently while I savour the snacks and indulge in the book. That remains one of my most peaceful reminiscence to date, and I have not been able to recreate it for so looong ugh. Hammock + book is a close second though.
Have you tried Kindle or E-Ink tablet for reading? Beats the sun ezpz
Oh no need to worry, the cost is far far away from my place. The people who would be affected have long been evacuated and are in shelters. Cyclone is receding now and people are returning back to their homes. The most we feel here in my town is the cold weather and unusual rains. It even hailed here the other day - which was cool, I’ve only seen hail once or twice in my life.
i started reading and he has finally turned… it was a bit hard to read the first chapters because he is so shameful. I felt so sorry for his mom. But so far so good, nothing else to complain about. I will update you more when i have come a bit further in.
Oh yea this is what makes it so complex, i didn’t even think of jobless as a harem manga because the girls aren’t really all over him and fighting for him among themselves. It is more like he built up relationships with kids who had no one around their age to lean on so they started to admire him pretty quick and then it turned into romantic feelings when they got older. It is a lot more tasteful and believable. Plus he develops feelings for them too and says it!! that is the most annoying part about most harem the MC won’t settle for one. He wants them all but pretends like he just wants to be close friends and nothing else.
Wow that is many chapters!!! The story must have been good too, it is hard to believe the translation was so good the story was less important 😂
I get bored of long novels like that if they are still on going and i joined in pretty early, because the pauses between the translations makes me forget the emotions i had (if you get what i mean) and makes it a bit more flat. Long novels like that have a lot of build up until a big event too. I am in that situation with a dark mage right now, so i am waiting for a few chapters so i can read the whole event in one go. It is a very huge event that takes place through many days. I don’t want to spoil it so i won’t say what it is just that it is huge haha
Keep on fighting, it was a bit slow in the beginning but the world is built really well! It went from a generic novel to a very interesting one after MC has settled in more! And it is fun reading the comments further into the story because you get to know Van, his allies and his enemies a lot and ppl discuss what they will do and why.
If the MTL is so bad that i am correcting everything i read and sometimes unsure what i am reading then i will drop it. It doesn’t have to be perfect but it must at least be a bit better than ok. I also dislike it when a team takes over and they change the name of things. For example in AoB did they call myne “sister myne” but in the last chapter of part 2 did they switch to myne sama and high priest became chief priest, myne sama is fine but chief priest? Also where can i find the last chapters of part 2? i can only find 41 chapters and i found part 3 and 4 D:
Where do you read the novel? From j-novel.club? I like it better when it is more like a blog post like dark mage. it is easier to keep track of where you are and easier to read on the go.
I haven’t eaten gooseberries for such a long time that i can’t really remember the taste of that sadly. I do remember I didn’t like it as a kid tho haha
You can drink a summer drink whenever! it will just be harder to find watermelons 😂 Pineapple is my favorite fruit! Passion fruit is a strong second. How can a fruit be so delicious?!!! I dont need to eat it together with anything it is perfect as it is and makes everything else so much better. Like juice, smoothie, drinks, fruit salad, deserts, and so on. It makes meat a lot more tender just like honey but it is a lot better at breaking down that protein, is is so versatile!
That sounds great! I really like sitting by the sea, the waves hitting the shore are so soothing. Sitting in a boat/kayak just going down a slow stream is the best. Sitting on anything that moves slowly and calmly is really soothing.
I have an e-reader, i dont like it that much tho, it is so slow (bought it back in 2016) and i need to create documents and put them on its SDK, it is a few too many extra steps haha
But i do like how it actually looks like paper! not great for manga tho because the contrast isn’t that good so it can be hard to see some lighter colors. I took it with me when i traveled abroad. It is pretty expensive reading on your phone outside of the EU after all so it was perfect for that!
That is good to hear! Good call living so far from the sea if it is happening so often. Is it cheaper to live by the sea because of the risk?
Haha i will do it.
The super power to say “i was there!” but other than that i dont think so, I mean most thing you do remember would pretty much be less than the info you can look up on the internet xD
In general I would also say followers are the same or close to fan service, it depends a lot on the relationship. If there is no romance but they follow MC because MC has that kind of power then i am all for it for example like AOB I mean lutz is kinda of a follower of myne and Benne is pretty much a fan of hers too but he is a tshunder and she also got her priests xD
I actually liked harems a lot before(over 15 years ago) harem is kinda like what isekai is today, almost always in a fantasy world, very game like, save the world from the demon king, MC is loved by all after some chapters. Always the same troupes (some got very boring because just like isekai was the same…all…the…time). Most MCs was often irritating but some were actually very cool and reliable, i liked reading those. But i never cared for the romance parts. Love hina was one of my first mangas, I was maybe 8 when i read it in the library, now later in life does it feel a bit weird that a kid could read that, but i was so innocent 😂 I wouldn’t look for harem now. I am pretty sure it is still the typical shonen stuff that we both have said we dislike 😂
I actually started reading AoB again. I just found out something… I never read the first volume! I remember thinking it felt like i was thrown into the manga in the middle but it said chapter 1 so i kinda just let it slide because the manga source i read it from never had multiple volumes spread out like bato.to can do sometimes. I read now the first volume and could tell i missed out a lot of character building. Myne was a lot more annoying in the beginning 😂 I finished that volume yesterday and in the comment section did someone link to the second volume saying it has been picked up again and that was the one i read thinking it was all. I bet there is a “third” volume that i will find out also exist (and that is why my source said it stopped being translated years ago), so i have been lied to!!! hahahah Better for me :D
I will follow your advise and look up the novel. I actually read the novel parts that they leave in the manga and it really makes the manga better, helps understanding ppls action more. The manga has Myne in the center so you can only assume some are assholes without knowing why they act like they do. It also helps you see what kind of effect she has, like creating opportunities for craftsmen (that she will never know she did).
I will also read jobless as a novel!! I never thought to look up if it exists as one! The world building and characters are so great in that one!! And the motives for the characters are very well written! I also like that everything is so human (?), for example the characters forget sometimes that what they feel isn’t always true for others and that everyone do not know what they know or feel if they don’t say anything. I think the author is very good at telling us the readers what the characters thinks and putting all the other characters in the dark.
Usually is everything so dumbed down and for some reason everyone understand everyone so well and MC have no setbacks. His biggest problems are usually physical like traveling a long distance or their being monsters in the way but that wont be a problem for long. The MC will find a strong person who so happens to have a problem that MC can help with and then the strong person starts to like MC a bit too much for such a short time and then help MC for example teleport MC… Everything doesn’t have to be solved! and it doesn’t have to be solved right away! that is how i feel about most mangas… they are always so narrow minded and just run through everything to get to their goal.
yea MTL really kills the joy of reading. There was a time i didn’t mind, there were also a time i started to think about just translating it my self and then i found Death mage and now i can’t read anything worse in quality 😂This is also one of the reason why i like reading manga, the translation is often very good or good enough compared to manhua… if the translation wasn’t so bad then maybe i would had to tried to read it a bit more, even tho the whole world/character building seems to be a joke.
I haven’t seen many who read, but it could just be that just like I, they keep the manga reading at home haha When i have talked with ppl about it have most only seen a few animes like pokemon, sailor moon, dragon ball and so on. I don’t remember anyone saying they read or have read manga. Except for two ppl (when i was a kid). Studio Gihbli movies have pretty much everyone seen, but I don’t see that as anime, it is very different from your typical anime.
Oh really? The mangakas i have seen in their work environment used a tablet, but it is true they were all pretty young (30 or less) so that could be why, i just assumed they had switch to a digital medium because of that haha
I have now drunk it and so did my family and extended family, they all said they liked it :D My parents and I tried it first just in case and all of us got pleasantly surprised haha
I dont know how to describe the taste of rhubarb, it doesn’t taste like anything else i have eaten. It is sweet but also very sour so you need to add a bit of sugar hence the white syrup. It is also great for cleaning the pot from burned food 😂 I think it is because it has a lot of acid in it.
I make rhubarb cream every summer. I grew up with rhubarb cream and rhubarb pie.
I finally found the receipt for the watermelon ice cream (sorbet) drink https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGMV2vLDJOw
Try it out it was great :D I made it a bit simpler and didn’t mix it all together with the prosecco and had more prosecco then he had (i have had drinks before with sorbet and prosecco and they did not mix it that is why i didnt do it), so it was more like a sorbet with prosecco it created a very nice balance between the bitter prosecco and sweet sorbet. You can also use the red parts to make water melon sorbet too but I ate it as is. A cold watermelon is great in summer because it has so much water in it and cools you down a lot!
I looked up the midsummer movie on imdb, it looks like they made our festival/party into a cult, so i can see why it is a horror movie 😂
Our company give us some book options to pick from every year to read (if we want to). I haven’t picked one up yet. But i am looking forward to it :D It is very nice to read a book while swinging in the wind in a hammock. It is pretty hard to do that with the sun glaring at the phone.
Dude I have never and i hope i will never live through a cyclone, seems pretty scary, nature can really wreak havoc. You don’t need to get to a shelter?
Thanks friendo. Your sacrifice is much appreciated
I suppose it depends on the nature of followers; plain friends and employee is fine, but simple fanatics are cringe - I actually don’t mind fanatics who are well-developed. Unfortuantely simple fanatics are what seem to be the most common
Honestly I don’t mind Harems themselves- some of them were a functionaly poly relationship (like Jobless Reincarnation). I just HATED how they are implemented because of the indecisiveness and pointlessness of the characters, lack of development and crappiness that favored extension of drama over resolution.
All the best with the novels for AoB and Jobless - there are legal channels and also the option to sail the high seas, whichever is easier for you.
Lol I get what you mean. Not to mention how every character is either a master plotter or an idiot who wears their hearts on their sleeves, becuase every interaction between these fellows must be an easy-to-digest nicelty wrapped up plot point.
Jobless’ world is really one of my favs - it’s a basic setting, but everything fits well together and the lore makes sense. and yes the characters! All of them are three-dimensional, and work together while not knowing every single feeling that the others are feeling.
A good translator is such a blessing - I only read some chinese webnovels till completion (all 1500-1800 chapters of them), because the translators were so passionate about it and it showed in their work. I started reading Death Mage btw, I’m not 100% into the story yet, but the translations are pretty nice.
I have mixed feelings about MTL. On one hand they are grating to read through, on another hand they’re so rough you can fill in the gaps however you want. I kinda feel like the guy
Huh your description of Rhubarb reminds me of Gooseberries for some reason - though I imagine Gooseberries are much sourer - but the way you use them is kinda similar. We use honey or syrup to sweeten gooseberries for drinks and making candies, but have never them for pies.
Thanks for the recipe, It does look delicious. Summer’s almost done on our side of the globe, so this’ll probably be a recipe for a bit later - or when one of those irregular humid days come by. God you’re so right about watermelons though - biting into one when you’re dehydrated is exhilarating. Watermelon + Pineapple combo is uber.
Hahaha taking a jolly festival and converting it into a cultist horror seems like a trope at this point
I have this one memory in my mind - sitting on a bench by a lake, a mini glass bottle of a mango drink, a packet of potato chips in one hand and a book in the other, enjoying the breeze as a listen to the waters of the lake splash gently while I savour the snacks and indulge in the book. That remains one of my most peaceful reminiscence to date, and I have not been able to recreate it for so looong ugh. Hammock + book is a close second though.
Have you tried Kindle or E-Ink tablet for reading? Beats the sun ezpz
Oh no need to worry, the cost is far far away from my place. The people who would be affected have long been evacuated and are in shelters. Cyclone is receding now and people are returning back to their homes. The most we feel here in my town is the cold weather and unusual rains. It even hailed here the other day - which was cool, I’ve only seen hail once or twice in my life.
i started reading and he has finally turned… it was a bit hard to read the first chapters because he is so shameful. I felt so sorry for his mom. But so far so good, nothing else to complain about. I will update you more when i have come a bit further in.
Oh yea this is what makes it so complex, i didn’t even think of jobless as a harem manga because the girls aren’t really all over him and fighting for him among themselves. It is more like he built up relationships with kids who had no one around their age to lean on so they started to admire him pretty quick and then it turned into romantic feelings when they got older. It is a lot more tasteful and believable. Plus he develops feelings for them too and says it!! that is the most annoying part about most harem the MC won’t settle for one. He wants them all but pretends like he just wants to be close friends and nothing else.
Wow that is many chapters!!! The story must have been good too, it is hard to believe the translation was so good the story was less important 😂 I get bored of long novels like that if they are still on going and i joined in pretty early, because the pauses between the translations makes me forget the emotions i had (if you get what i mean) and makes it a bit more flat. Long novels like that have a lot of build up until a big event too. I am in that situation with a dark mage right now, so i am waiting for a few chapters so i can read the whole event in one go. It is a very huge event that takes place through many days. I don’t want to spoil it so i won’t say what it is just that it is huge haha
Keep on fighting, it was a bit slow in the beginning but the world is built really well! It went from a generic novel to a very interesting one after MC has settled in more! And it is fun reading the comments further into the story because you get to know Van, his allies and his enemies a lot and ppl discuss what they will do and why.
If the MTL is so bad that i am correcting everything i read and sometimes unsure what i am reading then i will drop it. It doesn’t have to be perfect but it must at least be a bit better than ok. I also dislike it when a team takes over and they change the name of things. For example in AoB did they call myne “sister myne” but in the last chapter of part 2 did they switch to myne sama and high priest became chief priest, myne sama is fine but chief priest? Also where can i find the last chapters of part 2? i can only find 41 chapters and i found part 3 and 4 D: Where do you read the novel? From j-novel.club? I like it better when it is more like a blog post like dark mage. it is easier to keep track of where you are and easier to read on the go.
I haven’t eaten gooseberries for such a long time that i can’t really remember the taste of that sadly. I do remember I didn’t like it as a kid tho haha
You can drink a summer drink whenever! it will just be harder to find watermelons 😂 Pineapple is my favorite fruit! Passion fruit is a strong second. How can a fruit be so delicious?!!! I dont need to eat it together with anything it is perfect as it is and makes everything else so much better. Like juice, smoothie, drinks, fruit salad, deserts, and so on. It makes meat a lot more tender just like honey but it is a lot better at breaking down that protein, is is so versatile!
That sounds great! I really like sitting by the sea, the waves hitting the shore are so soothing. Sitting in a boat/kayak just going down a slow stream is the best. Sitting on anything that moves slowly and calmly is really soothing.
I have an e-reader, i dont like it that much tho, it is so slow (bought it back in 2016) and i need to create documents and put them on its SDK, it is a few too many extra steps haha But i do like how it actually looks like paper! not great for manga tho because the contrast isn’t that good so it can be hard to see some lighter colors. I took it with me when i traveled abroad. It is pretty expensive reading on your phone outside of the EU after all so it was perfect for that!
That is good to hear! Good call living so far from the sea if it is happening so often. Is it cheaper to live by the sea because of the risk?