• Cosmic Cleric
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    -101 year ago

    If the people of Hawaii repeatedly voted to be Chinese, I’d say maybe we should at least pay attention to what they want.

    Considering Hawaii’s history, that’s one hell of a statement you just made. You might want to revisit it, after knowing more of the history.

    • Flying SquidM
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      71 year ago

      What does their history have to do with what they want today?

      Are you saying Hawaiians should be denied democracy?

      • Cosmic Cleric
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        What does their history have to do with what they want today?

        I’m not going to give you an education here about it, there’s plenty you can read about the history of the Hawaiian nation and the US.

        Lets just say that the wishes of the Hawaiian people in the past were not honored very well.

        Are you saying Hawaiians should be denied democracy?

        No, not at all. You really should read up on the history before continuing to assume that I’m saying things that I’m not saying.

        • Flying SquidM
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          51 year ago

          Unless you can explain what the history of Hawaii would have to do with a democratic vote on whether to be American or Chinese, you can weave and bob all you want, but you have no point.

          If Hawaii was given the democratic choice of “be American” or “be Chinese,” the only people their history should matter to is the voters themselves.

          And I’m guessing you’re not Hawaiian, so it seems a bit paternalistic to speak on their behalf.

          • Cosmic Cleric
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            Unless you can explain what the history of Hawaii would have to do with a democratic vote on whether to be American or Chinese, you can weave and bob all you want, but you have no point.

            If Hawaii was given the democratic choice of “be American” or “be Chinese,” the only people their history should matter to is the voters themselves.

            And I’m guessing you’re not Hawaiian, so it seems a bit paternalistic to speak on their behalf.

            You REALLY should read up on it at least a little, before you continue to berate me about the subject.

            Its not my job to educate you, but here’s one link to get you started.

            As I mentioned before…

            Lets just say that the wishes of the Hawaiian people in the past were not honored very well.

            • Flying SquidM
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              21 year ago

              I see, so they shouldn’t be allowed to democratically vote on which country to be a part of because their wishes won’t be honored.

              Still sounds paternalistic.

              • Cosmic Cleric
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                -41 year ago

                I’m not saying that at all. Please don’t put words in my mouth (again).

                Go read up on their history, and then my comment will have context and you’ll understand it.

                • @RobertOwnageJunior
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                  41 year ago

                  you just posted the exact same comment four times. Could’ve tried explaining what point you’re trying to make in that time.

                  • Cosmic Cleric
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                    -21 year ago

                    you just posted the exact same comment four times. Could’ve tried explaining what point you’re trying to make in that time.

                    Its 5:30am here and I haven’t gone to bed yet, so I’m a little tired. Plus I’m having conversations with multiple people and getting multiple responses back, so you’ll have to forgive me if I repeat myself unnecessarily. Hard to track multiple conversations.

                • Flying SquidM
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                  21 year ago

                  Well then I’m not sure what you’re arguing. Because my comment was that if Hawaiians got a chance to vote to be either American or Chinese, both countries should honor their vote.

                  So unless you’re saying they shouldn’t be allowed that chance, I have no idea what your point is.