• @De_Narm
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    67 months ago

    I’m not christian, so I may have some wrong assumptions, but the same problem happens with heaven. Do you truly deserve eternal bliss for behaving 80 or so years? If you only get judged once, what’s stopping you from sinning in heaven as much as you want? Presumably, you keep your free will, meaning there is a chance for you to sin and any chance becomes 100% if stretched to eternity. I’ve read multiple times from Christians that morality for them is only derived from the fear of eternal punishment, going as far as arguing atheists cannot have morality. So either you keep that fear, meaning it’s not true bliss in heaven, or you’re even more likely to sin than you were on earth.

    In short, there are three options for heaven I could imagine and none of them seem like ‘heaven’ to me:

    1. Heaven is full of sin.
    2. We all go to hell eventually, because we all sin eventually.
    3. We lose our free will and become sinless puppets of ourselves.
    • @ChexMax
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      47 months ago

      It doesn’t take 80 years of good behavior to get into heaven, it just takes repentance on your deathbed. The shooter in the comic can " find Jesus" in the next panel and then he’ll be a part of that group hug in heaven

    • @Euphorazine
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      27 months ago

      I don’t think you maintain free will in heaven. You just worship God all day for eternity. It’s like the hive mind trope in sci Fi. When people get infected by the hive mind they seem happy and convince you to give in. You won’t find grandma in heaven, y’all are both too busy worshipping all day.

      Either way, Christianity doesn’t seem love based, it’s fear based. You don’t do good things because you love God, you do them because you fear he will banish you to damnation.

      • @De_Narm
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        7 months ago

        If you lose your free will anyway, what’s the point of selecting people on their deeds with free will? Without it, every murderer etc. will worship all the same.