• @[email protected]
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    151 year ago

    Bagging seems like it should be a valid strategy, let yourself go to the back of the pack to get better items, but run the risk of not being able to catch up.

    • @[email protected]
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      211 year ago

      It seems counter-intuitive to make a racing game’s optimal strategy to lag behind the rest of the other racers

      • @hansl
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        121 year ago

        Mario Kart is a racing game like Smash Bros is a fighting game; sure it fits, but you can’t really compare it directly to the competition.

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          21 year ago

          Eh serious tournaments disable items in Smash, the same isn’t said for Mario Kart.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          Knocking opponents off the stage is close enough to lowering their HP to 0.

          Being slower than everyone else is the opposite of being faster than everyone else. It does seem like it’s cheesing the system that’s supposed to balance things out.

          Even items in Smash Bros has a skill component in getting to the item first. And “rubber band” mechanics like bonus final smashes (and items in general) can be turned off.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 year ago

            Knocking people off the stage isnt the part that makes smash uncomparable to other fighting games.

            Its the fact that its technically a platforming game, and a multiplayer game, which frequently incentivizes running and hiding from opponents, and has a built in random trip mechanic to fuck you over for no reason other than coin flip handicapping you, among a myriad of other examples of how the game can make the weaker player win.

            • @[email protected]
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              31 year ago

              When the Smash meta revolves around playing sub-optimally until the other player trips, let me know.

              • @[email protected]
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                21 year ago

                Bagging isnt sub optimal either, its just not empty brain w+m1 gameplay.

                Youre upset the racing game is more dynamic? There are many other racing games with less complex and risky strategies

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 year ago

                  I meant sub-optimally in terms of actually racing. Optimal speed would be getting the lowest time in the race. Bagging would be aiming to not get the fastest lap each time. I probably could’ve chosen a better word, my bad.

                  I’m not upset about anything. But isn’t this post about Nintendo removing/reducing bagging? So maybe some others are upset about that change. But it seems like a good thing to me.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    11 year ago

                    Its also sub optimal speed to lag a bit so a blue shell doesnt blow you up, but since its a mario style cartoonish video game you often find that the optimal play isnt to have the smallest or biggest number at all times.

                    I would say any change that makes mario cart less like mario cart and more like other racing games is a change that makes a worse game. A racing game that involves more strategy than the rest is more interesting than a racing game thats just more cartoony.

          • @hansl
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            21 year ago

            It’s also possible to turn those off (items and their distribution), making bagging a minor issue at best.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 year ago

          Is it because of wind resistance? The one in front cuts through the wind for everyone else?

          • @[email protected]
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            21 year ago

            Yes. But it’s a duel, so they’re just trying to stay behind one person.

            You’re not allowed to stop, so you try and creep forward really slowly by doing bike stands until the last lap.

            I dunno exactly what sandbagging looks like in Mario Cart, but I kind of doubt it looks this silly.