Sounds to me like an excuse to invest in making the experience quality of transit better, at least for some. Longer distances in Executive Class aboard the Frecciarossa looks & sounds like a travelling experience that even the most determined car dependency fan would leave his car home for.
you’ll never hear me say no to better trains. a healthy society isn’t where the poor drive, but where the rich listen to duke ellington, or however the saying goes.
i’m glad you agree on car dependency being bad. the problem is that you were arguing for cars being useful for some people for some small reasons as if you were responding to an argument that we should ban all cars everywhere all the time. so if you don’t mind, i’d like to walk you through why your comment went… unappreciated here, despite no ill intention on your part.
that’s not what the post was arguing
that’s not what anybody in fuckcars argues
basically everbody in fuckcars, including me, will agree with the statement that cars have legitimate use cases, so arguing it as if you will meet any pushback is sus
arguing that point based on temperature control and music on speakers implies that the objections people of fuckcars have to car dependency are similarly centered around one’s own immediate personal comfort, rather than long-term societal health which directly and indirectly benefits everybody in that society, even those who can’t afford a car with working speakers or a/c in our current version of society
these sorts of implications are very commonly done intentionally by people arguing disingenuously, many of whom i’ve run into on either this forum or the reddit precursor
i enjoy when people bring this up as if to imply that that’s a good reason to keep building american car-centric suburbia
Sounds to me like an excuse to invest in making the experience quality of transit better, at least for some. Longer distances in Executive Class aboard the Frecciarossa looks & sounds like a travelling experience that even the most determined car dependency fan would leave his car home for.
you’ll never hear me say no to better trains. a healthy society isn’t where the poor drive, but where the rich listen to duke ellington, or however the saying goes.
Not my point was just staying liking a car isn’t a bad thing and is valid being dependent on cars and them being our only option is stupid though
i’m glad you agree on car dependency being bad. the problem is that you were arguing for cars being useful for some people for some small reasons as if you were responding to an argument that we should ban all cars everywhere all the time. so if you don’t mind, i’d like to walk you through why your comment went… unappreciated here, despite no ill intention on your part.
that’s not what the post was arguing
that’s not what anybody in fuckcars argues
basically everbody in fuckcars, including me, will agree with the statement that cars have legitimate use cases, so arguing it as if you will meet any pushback is sus
arguing that point based on temperature control and music on speakers implies that the objections people of fuckcars have to car dependency are similarly centered around one’s own immediate personal comfort, rather than long-term societal health which directly and indirectly benefits everybody in that society, even those who can’t afford a car with working speakers or a/c in our current version of society
these sorts of implications are very commonly done intentionally by people arguing disingenuously, many of whom i’ve run into on either this forum or the reddit precursor
do ya see where i’m coming from now?