• Hypx
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      -171 year ago

      It’s fuel made using electricity as the energy source.

      • @[email protected]
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        241 year ago

        The problem with fuels made from electricity is that pesky thing called thermodynamics. If an efuel was developed that was more efficient than electricity then we’d be able to use it to produce more electricity than we put in.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          Lots of fuels (like petrol) are a lot more energy dense than out best batteries. If we can synthesize fuels like that just using electricity as an energy source (that can be generated from renewables) then you have a carbon free dense store of energy that can be used to power a vehicle for a long distance without refueling.

          The problem with these (fuel cells etc) is that the conversation rate is inefficient, wasting a lot of energy. As we are not using 100% renewable energy this means carbon is being released still.

          If we had an entirely renewable energy grid (with oversupply when sunny/windy etc) then those energy losses would not matter.

        • Hypx
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          -201 year ago

          You avoid the giant, expensive battery though. People are obsessed with efficiency in a self-defeating way.

          • @[email protected]
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            191 year ago

            People are obsessed with efficiency because it’s the only metric that matters. We have a finite amount of resources on this planet and efficiency is the only way we can make it last. If you aren’t a ‘save the planet’ type of person then efficiency still matters because it’s directly correlated with cost.

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              1 year ago

              Better ban solar panels cause they’re only 15-20% efficient. /s

              • @[email protected]
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                191 year ago

                You are comparing different efficiencies. Solar panels are 15% to 20% efficient at converting light into energy. As far as I’m aware every Efuel being developed (and every hydrocarbon fuel for that matter) has a 0% efficiency at converting light into energy but if I am mistaken please do correct me.

                • @[email protected]
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                  21 year ago

                  In a completely technical sense the hydrocarbon fuel was at one time produced from light energy (dead plants) but that’s taking your point and being pedantic since the “efficiency” of the conversation is probably astronomically low when you account for the loses sustained by whatever lifeform died and became said hydrocarbons.

                • Hypx
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                  -121 year ago

                  E-fuels are made from solar power. It is not anywhere near 0%. Also, clearly efficiency is not “the only metric that matters.”

                  • @[email protected]
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                    81 year ago

                    No they are made from electricity, and that electricity is made by solar panels (sometimes).

                    Any form of conversion means losing energy.