• @nomecks
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    116 months ago

    I can charge my EV in the garage and not have to stand at a gas station in -30. Why on Earth would I want a less convenient hydrogen or other fuel car?

    • Hypx
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      -36 months ago

      Because not everyone has a garage, and you still have to use the equivalent of gas stations if you’re travelling long distances.

      In reality, BEVs pre-date ICE cars. They were abandoned because they were found to be less practical. The vast majority of people actually want gas stations and not the reverse.

      • @nomecks
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        106 months ago

        We’re still in the early adoption stage. They were less practical because batteries were absolute trash 100 years ago. The vast majority of people want a car that will fill fast and go far. They don’t care how it happens.

        • Hypx
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          06 months ago

          We are also in the early adoption phase of other technologies. They will be far cheaper and more practical than what they are now. At some point, we have cars that are exactly as practical and cheap as conventional cars, only zero emissions. That is likely the end of the BEV.

          • @nomecks
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            Why do you think BEV is going away? Toyota is predicting they’ll have 1200km range and charge in 10 minutes by 2028. Even now the average city dweller can charge enough on a small service to make their trip to work and back. There is no upside to changing to something else.

            • Hypx
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              16 months ago

              They’re unsustainable, not to mention expensive and difficult for society to adopt. Toyota just say things while not actually being interested in them.

              The marketing that they are “acceptable” for most people is not good enough. Eventually, there will be zero emissions cars that are just as practical as existing ICE cars and just as cheap. Basically no one will want BEVs once that happens.

              • @nomecks
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                46 months ago

                They’re not unsustainable. Lithium is infinitely recyclable. Not to mention batteries are lasting way longer than expected. I’ve been in Tesla cabs with almost a million kilometers.

                • Hypx
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                  26 months ago

                  But it isn’t recycled, especially at the 100% level that would be required. And you still need to dig out vast amount amounts of virgin material in the first place. Meanwhile, e-fuels and hydrogen have no such problem to begin with. This is basically an excuse to ignore the real-world problems of batteries.

        • @[email protected]
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          26 months ago

          I’m going to say that less than 30% of houses here in the UK have a garage/carport etc (either individual or shared).

          Most of the individual garages will be sized to fit an old mini, not a modern car (even a small one)