Personally I think not having karma limits is nice currently! I understand why they were used but grinding karma as a lurker on reddit was frustrating.

  • Riley
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    Reddit has a longstanding reputation for being a hive of scum and villainy (like hosting the_donald for years, or kotakuinaction, etc). I really hope that Lemmy keeps with the general left-leaning vibes of the fediverse overall, hopefully being a good space for queer people, women, people of colour, etc.

    • Anomandaris
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      I think you do have to be careful here though. If you’re too permissive you allow bigotry, but if you’re too restrictive you cut off honest, good faith debate and create echo chamber silos where beliefs are never challenged.

      Bigotry should never be accepted but that means non-discriminatory opinions, especially ones you disagree with, should be allowed.

      • CynAq
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        Good faith is the key here. I’m all for disagreements leading to lengthy discussions and even some controversy as long as everyone is arguing in good faith.

        I can’t stand trolling, outright bigotry, and the normalization of literal fascist opinions as a mere “disagreement”. If a “disagreement” (you know which ones I mean) will lead to people dying if enabled, I’m pretty happy keeping those ideas out.

        • lobemanet
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          Gender critical ideas are based on truth and reality. If those ideas are censored here that would be terrible.

          • Riley
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            311 year ago

            Hi! I’m trans. If you’re looking to change your mind about that I’m happy to chat! Otherwise I suggest you look to get out of here as soon as possible.

          • @[email protected]
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            That’s the beautiful thing about being a federated platform. You can create your own island and fill it with all the hatred and bad “science” you want. it’s worked for the British for centuries.

            • lobemanet
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              No hatred here. Just leave the kids and women spaces alone.

          • [email protected]
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            I’ve never understood the need to militantly oppose others’ personal situations when they have no impact on your own. Even playing devil’s advocate - what is the point of the hate? You don’t believe in gender identity, then don’t personally be trans. The fact that others may be would seem to have literally zero impact on you or your life. Why should Lemmy accommodate negativity that does real harm to people in sensitive circumstances?

        • @Knoll0114
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          Don’t know why people are downvoting you for this because that does actually matter. What is an opinion to some is discrimination to others (and this goes for any point on the political spectrum.)

          I guess the answer to that question though will be formed by the culture of the instances over time (although many instances do have explicit leanings already.) If you’re finding yourself consistently flagged for discrimination or whatever in one instance you can probably find one that you are better suited to (or re-evaluate your beliefs.)

    • CapgrasDelusion
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      /r/jailbait needed a spotlight in the national news from Anderson Cooper to get dealt with.

      But (allowing for the fact that I’m still learning) by its nature I’m not sure the fediverse can stop these things in total, but the particular instances you subscribe to can. I’m unclear if INDIVIDUALS can ban instances (as far as I can tell they cannot) which I think might be a good addition. But instances can ban other instances, and eventually the fediverse will figure out which instances to put in the time-out corner for the rest of us, I think. But it will take time and might be a bit of wack-a-mole.

      • Melmi
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        I think this is the big thing that Fediverse platforms are missing right now. If you want to be able to ban instances yourself, you have to run your own.

    • RedditTransfer
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      That would be nice but these platforms with “instances” look like it’s a Reddit on steroids. I don’t see how a community could be shut down with the way it’s setup currently. I’m a complete newbie though so don’t rely on my unprofessional observations.

      • Justin
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        Your instance can ban the offending instances, so they won’t show up for you or your fellow users, and vice versa. It provides a good way to exile the offending community.

          • Justin
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            I honestly have no idea. I’m just running my own instance so I’ll just ban any users from my federation feed if I need to.

            If you check the modlog page (link at the bottom of the desktop site), you can see what mods/admins have been doing recently (note that there is potentially offensive content there)

      • Kichae
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        Communities can’t be shut down, but they can be shut out. This is also just true in life in general.

        If The_Donald were to set up shop on Lemmy.ml, they could ban the instance and the members, but they could just turn around and join another instance.

        So, what do you do then? Site admins can ban the remote instance, and they can put pressure on the hosting site admins by threatening to defederate.

        Let’s say the new hosting site’s admin gives into defederation pressure and also bans the instance and its members. We’ll, then those people can set up their own server. Now, the admin won ban them.

        But none of the major servers will federated with them. They’ll be alone on their low population fashy instance (or not so low population - Truth Social is suppsoey the biggest Mastodon instance), effectively quarantined.

        That’s the best anyone can do. That’s true with or without Lemmy.