Has replaceable battery, ARM64 architecture, sim card slot, USB OTG support, sd card slot, uab type c and no front camera. Ships to europe. Also, I don’t want most of the budget to go for the camera.

minimum: • decent charging and internet send/recieve speed • multi-touch • android 8 or 9 • no annoying bloatware and restrictions (unless can be disabled with ADB) • 2gb ram (1gb free average or less) • 16gb storage (max 8gb system usage) • 60hz refresh rate • 16:9 aspect ratio • screen that can be dimmed to very very dark • can emulate nds games at 50-60fps • very long battery life (8 hours wih airplane mode off) • Runs well 8 years

  • HidingCat
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    no front camera

    That sounds impossible, I don’t think that even exists now.

    Android 8 or 9

    Really, next thing you’ll want are Windows 7 PCs? All these OSes are no longer supported, no one is going to sell that new.

    • @monkey011OP
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      I unfortunely agree with your first point. I prefer older OSes because newer ones are usually filled with more garbage.

      • DpwnShift
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        Of course you’re allowed your opinion, but what exactly are you referring to by “more garbage”? Are you sure you’re not talking about bloatware installed by phone/carrier companies that’s completely separate from the actual operating system? Also, just like PC operating systems/there are OSes designed to be extremely lightweight, with low system requirements.

        Security-wise, using any older OS is a terrible idea, IMO. As long as any personal information will ever pass through that phone, that is. Even if someone discovered a way to remotely hack your phone, eavesdrop on all your interactions, and steal your information, it wouldn’t be patched, even if the vulnerabilities were published. These old OSes literally aren’t supported anymore.

        With that said, I wish you good luck in what you’re searching for…

        • @monkey011OP
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          I mean TTS, “Phone Boosters”, animations and other things I don’t need.

          Not everyone wants to void their warranty or risk making their phones unuseable.

          Someome being able to remotely hijack a device that is running an os built by Google doesn’t make sense. I don’t know exploits that work like this.

          • randromeda
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            I don’t understand it so nobody does

            Just because you don’t understand what security patches are doesn’t mean your phone can’t be exploited, especially when it’s running an os that’s half a decade old.

            • @monkey011OP
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              Explain how my phone can get hacked then

              • @zysarus
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                There are literally hundreds of security vulnerabilities in Android 8 and 9.

                https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224/product_id-19997/version_id-564242/Google-Android-8.0.html

                Several of which allow remote code execution (meaning if exploited, attacker would have full control of your device, likely without you knowing). These vulnerabilities can be exploited a number of different ways, for example, this one would just require that your Bluetooth radio is turned on- https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2021-0316/

                This one just requires that you open a text message an attacker sends you- https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2020-8899/

                This one just requires NFC on your device to be on (which most phones have and is usually on by default) https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2020-0073/

                Don’t run old OSes. 90% of the reason new versions come out is to fix these issues.

                • @monkey011OP
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                  Thanks for the effort but i still prefer non-bloated OSes with less data collection. I don’t see anyone complaining about their device being remotely hijacked outside the internet.

                  • @zysarus
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                    Many of these exploits don’t require that the person using the phone even knows they’re in use bud. You do you, but know that your phone will likely be hijacked to be used as a crypto miner at best. At worst literally all your data will be exfiltrated.

          • BiggestBulb
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            Just because it’s made by Google doesn’t mean literally anything. Google hacks happen literally all the time.

            Just heed the warning and slap new Android on it or an up-to-date alternative OS. Otherwise you’re pretty likely to get gotten

          • @[email protected]
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            Google isn’t perfect, no company is, just because a big company has made the OS on your phone that doesn’t mean it’s impenetrable, especially if it’s (over) 5 years old like android 8 and 9 are, security issues that exists in these versions of Android are not going away

      • HidingCat
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        21 year ago

        Actually went through your list again, it’s all very outdated specs. Don’t think a 16:9 phone even exists now.

      • alice
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        11 year ago

        the garbage widely known as “security updates”