“We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not.”

That’s gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I’ve heard in a while.

  • @ButtermilkBiscuit
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    Seriously these fucking morons are going to assist the guy who wants a “complete and total ban on Muslim entering our country…” because they don’t like Biden’s support for Israel? I understand this is a no win situation but given the choice who’s going to be better for Muslims domestically or abroad? Clearly the dem. And on that point I wonder if they think trump would have behaved any differently toward Israel? Spoiler alert.

    They have a point though, neither d nor r is going to be “good” for Muslims or Palestinians, our track record sorta proves that out.

    • @Ensign_Crab
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      Seriously these fucking morons are going to assist the guy who wants a “complete and total ban on Muslim entering our country…” because they don’t like Biden’s support for Israel?

      Maybe they figure that when Trump was supporting his Muslim ban, they had one major party on their side.

      Instead of zero parties on their side and one party gloating that they have no choice.

      • VaultBoyNewVegas
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        Never mind a party which is more than happy to call them morons for feeling let down and wanting a candidate who actually stands up for them.

        • capital
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          Wanting someone to stand up for you isn’t moronic.

          What’s moronic is voting in such a way that elects the party FURTHEST from your ideal.

          • @Ensign_Crab
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            If the party needs their votes, it should act like it needs their votes.

            They certainly know how to act like they need Republican votes.

            • @Potatofish
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              Interesting. Now we have to stop people from punching themselves in the face? I tell you, you can’t fix stupid.

              • @Ensign_Crab
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                I tell you, you can’t fix stupid.

                Then give up and lose. You’ll get to blame a minority for your problems, just like republicans.

                • @Potatofish
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                  You can’t fix stupid already implies I’ve given up on them. That’s what it means.

                  • @Ensign_Crab
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                    Democrats sure like giving up at the first setback, huh?

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      I see this kind of thinking often, with regards to young voters, black voters, blue collar workers, immigrants, women, etc.

      ‘We’ve checked with the experts and determined that they should be grateful! Why won’t they adjust their lived experience to match our policy platform!!’

      It doesn’t matter whether you agree with them. They’re leveraging power. You are free to disregard them if you think your personal narratives are enough to keep you comfort after Trump wins.

      If Biden and his supporters want to win, they need to stop arguing with their voters and start listening. It’s not that complicated.

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        I’ll be comfortable if Trump wins. I’m a cis white male who makes over $200k per year. Hell, I’ll probably get a fucking tax cut.

        These idiots are going to be among the first and worst to get hurt.

        I’ll vote to try to stop them from hurting themselves but there’s only so much I can do.

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        Democrats feel entitled to votes from their base are are offended at the idea they might have to earn their vote. They blackmail us with Republicans and victim blame when their bad electoral strategy fails them

        • @assassin_aragorn
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          This isn’t unique to Democrats, it’s a feature of the left in general. Democrats aren’t bending over backwards to get progressive votes, but progressives aren’t bending over backwards to get moderate votes either. If a Democrat loses, moderates blame Progressives for not showing up. If a progressive loses, progressives blame moderates and the establishment.

          I mean how many progressives criticize Bernie’s electoral strategy instead of blaming the DNC? Bernie completely wrote off Florida and Cuban Americans instead of trying to win them over. He aimed for 40% of the vote in the primaries. And he relied on non voters to win.

          Democrats and progressives BOTH prefer to bicker with each other and make no efforts to court each other’s base. They’d rather blame each other than critique their electoral strategy. And when fascists rise to power because of this bickering, both will blame each other again.

          • @Ensign_Crab
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            Bernie completely wrote off Florida and Cuban Americans instead of trying to win them over.

            And just like that, candidates are expected to win votes.

      • DreamerofDays
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        This implies their voters are speaking in a unified voice. They’re not. Subsets are, closer to it, but overall, politics is about compromise and consensus.

        If you want the power of dominion, go for a monarchy, and if you don’t want to compromise at all, go to war. When it comes time for peace again, it’ll be some manner of compromise.

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          This implies their voters are speaking in a unified voice. They’re not. Subsets are, closer to it, but overall, politics is about compromise and consensus.

          “We decided you’re expendable. We still expect your solidarity.”

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      I tried asking that question on a post somewhere around here and they pretty much responded like I was the biggest moron who had to be spoken down to.

    • GodlessCommie
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      Because in bizarro world a ban is worse than ethnic cleansing.

      • @assassin_aragorn
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        Ban + more ethnic cleansing > no ban + less ethnic cleansing

        It’s utterly disingenuous to suggest the two are mutually exclusive. The ethnic cleaning only intensifies under Trump, and the ban is in addition to that. Unless we’re in a bizarre world where Trump suddenly loves brown people and Palestinians.

        • GodlessCommie
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          Speculating while ignoring genocide. BlueMAGA is toxic as fuck

          • @assassin_aragorn
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            Gee I wonder why you guys have practically no meaningful political presence in reality. Maybe if you tell me more about how much I love genocide, I’ll see the purity in your idealistic views and decide to support your cause instead.

            Of course, I could fire back that you want dead Palestinian babies since you refuse to go against the most deadly option – but that would be as utterly disingenuous as writing off all Biden supporters as genocide supporters.

            • floppade [he/him]
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              The funniest thing about this comment is that it could be easily directed at you as well.

            • GodlessCommie
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              Biden allowing their death is the most deadly option. Do you people even hear yourself? I couldn’t give a fuck if you support us or not, which is preferred since liberals tend to co-opt movements and try to redirect the energy to neoliberalism.

              • @assassin_aragorn
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                Personally I think a Republican actively killing them would be the most deadly option. I’m curious though why you think Biden would result in more Palestinian deaths than any Republican candidate.

                • GodlessCommie
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                  Are you not aware there’s over 20,000 dead?