“We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not.”
That’s gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I’ve heard in a while.
You’re probably not wrong. It’s an impossibly difficult problem to determine exactly what every voter wants.
Then of course we have to wonder all the non-public things that are keeping the US tied to Israel…would make it a lot easier to understand why things are happening as they are.
For one, the occupation is an amazing source of tools and tactics that end up being used by cops in the US to
occupypolice certain neighbourhoods.It’s a lot easier to not give a shit and just scream insults at anyone who’s had enough.
Like you’re doing in this entire thread? LMAO
Who have I insulted?
Dishonest discussion is insulting lol
All you’ve done is throw out supposed “gotcha” statements and added nothing to conversation. It makes me embarassed to fundamentally agree with you on things.
It’s literally dipshits like you that undermine the cause of the left: head to far up your own ass to accept anything less than everything being what you want. Learn the reality of the situation before crying about how the dems did something that isn’t what you think is best and turn your energy to actually achievable results
The party should adapt to get the votes of people it needs to win.
That’s not expecting everything to be like I want. That’s wanting the party to do what is necessary to win so we don’t get stuck with Trump again.
Dismissing them is fine if you think you don’t need them. Hurling abuse at them is great if you think you can win without their votes. But if you do that, don’t turn around and blame people to whom you were hostile and whose votes you didn’t attempt to get.
Democrats would never act that way while trying to court Republican votes that they’ll never get, but they’re perfectly comfortable doing so to anyone to the left of party leadership – votes they can get but are too proud to try getting.
Ah, finally, an actual answer
I’m explicitly talking about this scenario: American Muslims are overplaying their hand to the detriment of the rest of the bloc. What they want is utterly unattainable in such a short term, and the only counter they are attempting is threatening to vote for Trump as though it is some sort of solution. Sure, demanding a ceasefire and stopping Islamaphobia at home is a great long-term goal, but it is ludicrous to see their demands as valid when they are essentially saying “if you don’t stop Islamaphobia I’m gonna be the Islamaphobes in power.”
As for hurling abuse at them, I don’t think any Democrat official has done anything of the sort, whereas the party they are turning to does constantly.
And when it comes to courting Republicans…they have to play nice or risk the government ceasing to function. At the same time, given current trends the Democratic party will shift more to the left because more and more young people are going to force their hand within the next decade or so as the Boomers are (thankfully) culled.
People do illogical things sometimes, yes. How do we go about getting them back?
I wish I had your optimism regarding the future of the Democratic Party.
We get them back by reminding them of exactly what has been done for them and the realities of the alternative, as well as opening a dialog on what reasonable concessions can be made (if any). If that doesn’t work, then clearly, there was no way of turning them, and they should be cut loose.
As for optimism, it’s really more of simply extrapolating trends in the culture of younger generations and the realities of more workers than at least the last 40 years realizing they are being screwed and striking. Clearly, something is changing as people realize the system is a scam