• Echo Dot
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    -26 months ago

    Especially because unless you’ve solved the limited resources problem, then even in a utopia you’re still going to have to have something like money, and therefore you will still have things that some people have that other people don’t have.

    • @rockSlayer
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      56 months ago

      What essential resources are so limited that we can’t provide them to everyone based on need?

      • Flying Squid
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        26 months ago

        Define ‘limited.’ Because limits include trained manpower, right? There’s only a certain amount of that. Our ability to provide certain drugs for everyone who might need them are limited by the number of people trained to make them. This is true of virtually any industry. It is as limited as the number of people who can make it usable. And that is usually not an ‘anyone can do this’ issue.

        • @rockSlayer
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          16 months ago

          Labor of any stripe is abundant. In an economy that doesn’t prioritize profit, people would be able to pursue specialized jobs that they want to contribute towards. For example, after the modernization of the USSR, they had the most doctors of any country in the world and healthcare was made accessible for millions of people. Our growth as a society is limited by the amount of cooperative labor we have available, but it’s not a limited resource.

          In contrast, capitalism is reliant on a reserve pool of labor to keep wages down. If someone remains in the reserves for too long, they become homeless because every aspect of life has been commodified.

          • Flying Squid
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            36 months ago

            I’m not talking about labor, I’m talking about specialized labor. Which is limited not just to numbers but to numbers willing to be trained in that field.

            • @rockSlayer
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              16 months ago

              Which specialized labor do you think would be in short supply in a non-market economy?

                • @rockSlayer
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                  6 months ago

                  Pharmacology? It’s a science like any other. Pharmacists talk constantly about how their wages are actively being depressed because of intentional understaffing. The hypothetical you’re presenting is a reality under capitalism.

                  • Flying Squid
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                    26 months ago

                    Most pharmacists dispense drugs, they don’t make drugs. You are being disingenuous.