• @karobeccary
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    So can you explain the direct relation between this article and conservatism?

    Is it just a judge made a bad call so they must be a lib?

    Or is that immigrants are rapists? and if that’s the case, are you implying that they are inherently rapists?

    All I see here is rage bait and tabloid level rubbernecking of a horrific event.

    • ThrowawayOPM
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      It’s more than a bad call, it’s systemic racism.

      • @karobeccary
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        Okay, so your opinion is that it’s systemic racism, in Germany.

        Can you define the nature of the racism you see, and do you have any statistics to prove that it is systemic?

        Simply put, tell me who is being racially discriminated against, and share statistical proof that it takes place with enough regularity to rise to a level which could reasonably be considered systemic.

        Once you have done that, can you then show where and how this systemic racism is due to a lack of conservatism or an abundance of centre or left wing thought?

        edit:typos, always typos :D

          • @karobeccary
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            1,200 - 2,000 sexual assaults (including between 2 and 22 rapes) over the breadth of Germany during the new years celebrations 2015-16. That’s 2,000 overall, by anyone, not immigrants.

            200 people were identified and questioned by November the following year. Based on the descriptions by some women of some perpetrators as being “Dark”, “Foreign”, “Arab Looking”, “Immigrant”, etc, the first 120 people who were pulled in by the police were North African.

            Of the people accused, it seems roughly 9 people of those pulled in were convicted.

            So sexual assault, meaning anything from ‘Exhibitionism’ to unwanted touching, was the vast majority of the 2,000 Number. The number of rapes seems to be between 2-22.

            The 200 men of black and brown ethnic backgrounds were questioned by the police, and of those 9 were convicted.

            And the reason for the blaming of immigrants was due to the skin color of the accused, and as such could easily have been black or brown Germans, or misidentification due to dim lighting. You realize that non whites in Germany can be native citizens?

            The right wing media used this incident to stir up fear and hatred of immigrants, and left wing womens organisations used it as an opportunity to demonstrate in favor of legal reform for better protection of vulnerable people.

            Sounds very much like scaremongering and an example of throwing numbers into a pot alongside the word immigrant and hoping people draw the incorrect conclusions based on their pre-existing prejudices. It also seems like the vast majority of the 2,000 sexual assaults were commited by non-immigrants, if only 200 were even called in for questioning.

            And 9 convictions. That’s 0.45% of the sexual assaults (not rape mind you, any sexual assault up to and including rape) were confirmed to be by migrants. Hardly an epidemic.

            edit:typo and clarification

              • @karobeccary
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                210 months ago

                No, it was not. From the Article:

                1,200 across Germany. Rising to 2,000 including late reports.

          • NeuromancerM
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            1300 in one city in one night. Crazy.

            That doesn’t mean rape, just sexual assaulted.