So can you explain the direct relation between this article and conservatism?
Is it just a judge made a bad call so they must be a lib?
Or is that immigrants are rapists? and if that’s the case, are you implying that they are inherently rapists?
All I see here is rage bait and tabloid level rubbernecking of a horrific event.
It’s more than a bad call, it’s systemic racism.
Okay, so your opinion is that it’s systemic racism, in Germany.
Can you define the nature of the racism you see, and do you have any statistics to prove that it is systemic?
Simply put, tell me who is being racially discriminated against, and share statistical proof that it takes place with enough regularity to rise to a level which could reasonably be considered systemic.
Once you have done that, can you then show where and how this systemic racism is due to a lack of conservatism or an abundance of centre or left wing thought?
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Well it’s a pattern. Germany lets migrants rape German women. See the the 2016 mass rapes in Germany for an example. Only 4 out of 200 rapists were convicted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_New_Year’s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
I probably shouldn’t say it’s definitively systemic racism, as I have no direct proof of it, but there’s definitely a pattern.
1,200 - 2,000 sexual assaults (including between 2 and 22 rapes) over the breadth of Germany during the new years celebrations 2015-16. That’s 2,000 overall, by anyone, not immigrants.
200 people were identified and questioned by November the following year. Based on the descriptions by some women of some perpetrators as being “Dark”, “Foreign”, “Arab Looking”, “Immigrant”, etc, the first 120 people who were pulled in by the police were North African.
Of the people accused, it seems roughly 9 people of those pulled in were convicted.
So sexual assault, meaning anything from ‘Exhibitionism’ to unwanted touching, was the vast majority of the 2,000 Number. The number of rapes seems to be between 2-22.
The 200 men of black and brown ethnic backgrounds were questioned by the police, and of those 9 were convicted.
And the reason for the blaming of immigrants was due to the skin color of the accused, and as such could easily have been black or brown Germans, or misidentification due to dim lighting. You realize that non whites in Germany can be native citizens?
The right wing media used this incident to stir up fear and hatred of immigrants, and left wing womens organisations used it as an opportunity to demonstrate in favor of legal reform for better protection of vulnerable people.
Sounds very much like scaremongering and an example of throwing numbers into a pot alongside the word immigrant and hoping people draw the incorrect conclusions based on their pre-existing prejudices. It also seems like the vast majority of the 2,000 sexual assaults were commited by non-immigrants, if only 200 were even called in for questioning.
And 9 convictions. That’s 0.45% of the sexual assaults (not rape mind you, any sexual assault up to and including rape) were confirmed to be by migrants. Hardly an epidemic.
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No, it was not. From the Article:
1,200 across Germany. Rising to 2,000 including late reports.
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Not really mentioned in the article (but in the Spiegel one they source from):
- All were sentenced under juvenile law.
- The probation sentences are conditional, meaning the court can still send them to prison depending on their general behaviour, not just when they get into trouble with the law.
Juvenile prison sentences are very rare in Germany, as they should be. Education has strict precedence in juvenile law, the maximum sentence is five years in separate prisons to turn still easily formable minds around.
Although the rapists were ages 17 to 21 at the time of the horrific crime, they were tried in a youth court.
What’s that supposed to mean? Between 14 and 18 it’s always youth court, from 18 to 21 it depends on the developmental state of the defendant. Who does the blaze think juvenile law should apply to, instead of juveniles? Children? Those can’t stand trial in the first place! What’s next, sentencing toddlers for stealing lollipops?
Spiegel indicated that those involved in the trial have been subjected to overwhelming criticism and hostilities since the rapists were set free.
No, they didn’t.
“DNA evidence implicated 9 of the men” yet only one is going to jail.
If that was my sister… I’d probably end up in jail.
These judges/politicians are just pushing for French Revolution II.
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Are you implying that current laws in Germany are antisemetic?
They historically have that component, yes. Its like how the 1934 NFA in America was trying to keep black people from arming themselves.
Scroll down to the bit about the “The 1938 Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,[12][13] effectively deprived all Jews living under Nazi rule of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition.”
Yes I’m well aware of the existence of the Nazi Party and the laws they imposed. I’m asking once again, are you implying that CURRENT laws in Germany are antisemetic?
Now I did as you said and scrolled down the article you provided. Can you do me a favor and scroll back up the article to this bit:
Why did you feel the need to ignore the current state of gun control in Germany, scroll past it and share a commonly known fact about the actions of the Nazi party nearly 100 years ago? In future maybe respond with the current context rather than a no longer relevant context which only serves to poison the well of conversation.
So once again, just to be clear; Are you implying that current laws in Germany are antisemetic?
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The judge is a lady, and no they wouldn’t.
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I assume you have an example of this happening, as this is not the first bad call in a sexual assault case a judge has made.
So show me the statue.
You’ve been at least reasonable in other comments. This one doesn’t rise to that level.
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