• @NocturnalMorning
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    1410 months ago

    Well, I’ve been putting off switching to Linux for a long time now. I guess Microsoft is going to force my hand.

    • FaceDeer
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      510 months ago

      Are there any 10-year-old Linux distributions that are still getting free support?

      • S410
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        310 months ago

        Literally most of them. All the big ones like Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Arch, etc. are 10+ years old and still get updates pretty much daily.

        Debian had its 30th birthday back in September, actually.

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          • S410
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            410 months ago

            It’s not really comparable to the way Windows versioning works. Releases of distros like Debian are closer to Service Packs on Windows: they’re just a bunch of updates bundled together.
            Alternatively, you can use Debian Sid or Arch, for example, and get all the changes as they’re being made. That way, you get a lot of smaller updates a lot more often.

            • FaceDeer
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              210 months ago

              Whatever you want to call it, version or service pack, the point is that you’re going to need to be using a relatively recent one to get that free support.

              • S410
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                You do, in fact, need to accept support to benefit from it. Those releases are the support. Support = updates!

                Sometimes people or companies retire their distros (e.g. Mandriva), or just do stupid decisions that piss of their users (CentOS) and force the users to switch to a different distro. This, however, is extremely rare. Microsoft do that on a schedule.

                • FaceDeer
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                  310 months ago

                  So update to Windows 11, then. This is how Microsoft has always operated, they’re doing this on their usual schedule.

                  • S410
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                    -210 months ago

                    You can use Debian Sid, for example. That way, instead of waiting for a bunch of updates to install them as one big upgrade, you, basically, always have the last version. You don’t get those big upgrades at all, this way.

                    That’s not possible with Windows. Even if you were to install every update that comes out, you wouldn’t end up with a system that’s somewhere between Windows 10 and Windows 11. You’re forced into a major upgrade.

      • Poggervania
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        010 months ago

        Actually, yes.

        Debian has been supported since the early 90s, but admittedly that’s the only one I could name off the top of my head.

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          • @[email protected]
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            Yeah, but there is almost never a need for keeping an older version of linux, unlike for Windows 10 since win11 has ridiculous system requirements

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          • S410
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            110 months ago

            Debian releases are more similar to Service Packs on Windows.

            Windows releases are entirely different products.

            There are changes to the defaults, sometimes, but they’re just that: changes to the defaults. If you’re upgrading your existing install, they won’t affect you.

            For example: Debian switched to Gnome as its default DE a couple years ago. It used to be XFCE. However, if you already had a system with XFCE, if wouldn’t go and replace it for you.

            On Windows side, meanwhile, when Microsoft decide to change up the DE, you get the changes, whether you like it or not. Remember Windows 8? It’s not like those who upgraded from Windows 7 got to keep their Aero theme and Start Menu.

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              • S410
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                I suppose it’s true for very old or more exotic hardware.
                Since last year we can’t even run Linux on i486 CPUs, and it’s not even some relatively exotic architecture!

    • @[email protected]
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      410 months ago

      Or you can wait for the inevitable workaround to make Win 10 pull updates from the extended support channel for free.