“Enough is enough. We cannot let Big Tobacco addict another generation of our kids. Our state laws are out of date and out of touch with what Michigan residents want and need to protect youth and advance racial and health equity,” said Minou Jones, founder of Making It Count and chair of the Detroit Wayne Oakland Tobacco-Free Coalition. “Coalitions in Detroit, Grand Rapids, Flint, Newaygo and other communities across the state are ready to help push this life-saving legislation over the finish line. We look forward to working with lawmakers from all corners of the state to end flavored tobacco sales, hold retailers accountable and put the health of all Michiganders ahead of tobacco industry profits.”

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    You’re right that people have to want to change, so why force it on them by banning flavors of all things? Let the adults have their vices and keep the kids away from them. Simple as.

    Firearms are the leading cause of death in children now, but I’ll bet the same people behind this survey aren’t trying to ban those.

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      Hey, seriously, as far as I’m concerned, you can buy menthol heroin or strawberry exocotin. I do however have a big problem with flavored nicotine whatever being marketed and sold to children. And nobody wants to address that problem because “muh freedoms”.

      And firearms are the leading cause of death in children? Whether that’s true or not, that’s because adults bring and store firearms into the home. Guns are undeniably an American cultural problem.

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        Ok, so just enforce the law that says kids can’t buy them. Flavors are not the problem, I started on nasty-ass tasting cigarettes when I was 17, so why ban flavors for the adults who can legally buy them and want to quit smoking? And who is marketing towards kids? I don’t see any ads on cereal boxes or vapes in Roblox. Kids are dumb as hell and they’ll try dumb things no matter how hard you nanny them.

        Here is the link to the New England Journal of Medicine that says firearms are the leading cause of death in children now. Notice that nowhere on that graph do they show nicotine or vapes.

        https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2201761

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          11 year ago

          Don’t be purposely obtuse, please. Of course nicotine or vaping isn’t going to be on that chart. But apparently you’re OK with hooking 'em young…so they can have other smoking-related diseases when they’re no longer on that chart. And after almost one hundred years of the tobacco industry marketing their product, you think just because you don’t see direct ads on Nickelodeon or cereal boxes that kids aren’t being influenced insidiously. Wow, are you that blind?

          And yes, kids are dumb as a bag of hammers. That’s what parenting is all about. Hopefully when the heavy lifting is done, they’re a little smarter than those who made 'em.

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            How many times in this thread do I have to say this? Enforce the laws already on the books about selling to minors.

            Please show me a vape ad directed towards children, I dare you. Actually, I wouldn’t care if you banned all marketing of nicotine products anyway, so go ahead and do that. It’s still not a good reason to ban adults from having flavor in their vegetable glycerin.