/u/mindseal and I recently began discussing intention and manifestation and the “mechanism” behind it. We’ve moved our conversation to this thread so that others can hopefully share their thoughts and experiences.
/u/mindseal and I recently began discussing intention and manifestation and the “mechanism” behind it. We’ve moved our conversation to this thread so that others can hopefully share their thoughts and experiences.
Instant manifestation is something that I have been meddling with for quite a while, yet i have no success in it. I feel like my mind believes I have no limitations yet, I am unable to spawn anything instantly or shapeshift anything infront of me instantly, There always seems to be a delay of good events coming. I’m able to spawn that yet again it could be because of my LOA paradigm belief system. Yet I tried to trump it and play with intent/will. Yet i am unable to manage any which frustrates me. I am a god yet i am unable to change things instantly infront of me, I feel the powerless state and then I try to pep talk myself saying it’s alright I did this for a reason it’s not so bad after all. Yet that lurking desire crave for unlimited power exists deep within me.
I’m aware this is all unlimited imagination/potential. Yet I am unable to imagine anything instantly. The lack of mind flexibility that i feel like, I don’t have is strange. I’m pretty sure I’ve contemplated more than enough yet I’m stuck in that bottleneck of no progress when it comes to instant manifestations.
Have you ever felt in that boat of it? What have you tried to overcome it? I’m aware we all find different answers to our own unique mind streams, Would like some pointers since my own inner being isn’t even fond of me apparently.
Originally commented by u/therewasguy on 2019-07-15 15:50:43 (ett9seo)
As mindseal put it in our discussion “sometimes you may (optionally) want to deliberately limit your ability to decide if you notice you tend to decide haphazardly and carelessly at times (sometimes it only takes one bad decision to ruin something important), you may want to put a conceptual magickal “wall” between decisions and emanation so that only especially empowered decisions are allowed to affect something more than the body and the personal conscious mind.”
I have had a few instant manifestations when I felt completely comfortable and sure about what I wanted without any doubts or hesitations.
In the context of a ‘human in a physical world’ as it exists at this time, stability is important for you otherwise life would appear to be chaotic. So instant manifestation doesn’t occur in your reality because you might find it unsettling. You have to commit to and be comfortable with the idea that instant manifestation is possible and doesn’t have to abide by the laws of science or the rules of society.
For example if you want to manifest money you will have all sorts of qualms and beliefs about money, such as how it will come about and from where, the amount of work you will have to do to earn it, how long it takes to get paid and so on. This is the knowledge you’re conscious of and comfortable with in regards to money and so that’s the way you have to go about manifesting it. Whereas finding a big wad of cash at your door is a much more novel and unsettling idea, and it’s definitely not in alignment with your beliefs.
Doubts and beliefs are the hindrances, so firstly you let go of the hindering beliefs, then you decide or will what the new reality is.
Originally commented by u/syncretik on 2019-07-16 21:38:49 (etwmf4r)
Why not just add an undo intent or reverse time magik? That would seem more interesting at times. Replay a certain quick minute scenario may be interesting. Or even days which may be exhausting in my opinion.
Surely that would be possible in our unlimited potential.
I find that more optimal, even though time is technically an illusion from my sense it’s always a NOW being imagined moment from my understanding.
Originally commented by u/therewasguy on 2019-07-18 19:54:55 (eu48ct3)
Sure but right now you’re in the momentum of not easily reversing time. If it’s a priority for you then you can decide that into your physical reality. You’ll also need to build the momentum of leverage that you have over reality so it doesn’t feel like an impossible feat.
Originally commented by u/syncretik on 2019-07-18 20:42:21 (eu4afr8)
Does frequency/vibration (example feeling good) even matter when manifesting or is it just pure will?
Or is my belief system not optimal as in thinking that If i feel good, things are working out for me in my alignment hence it goes my way.
Thank you sync.
Originally commented by u/therewasguy on 2019-07-17 07:24:44 (ety3110)
Your will overrides everything. If you believe that emotions/frequency/vibrations are important then you will be relying on those things and they will become relevant, but they don’t have to be.
It will make more sense when you understand what it means to decide instead of hope and wait. When you decide to get a glass of water you don’t rely on emotions or vibrations, you simply get up and get a glass of water. You know that water is already there and you only have to reach for it.
“Deciding” and “knowing” are learned habits of confidence which you can develop over time, little by little like learning a musical instrument or any other skill.
Originally commented by u/syncretik on 2019-07-18 18:15:14 (eu44b9z)
I’m on mobile at the moment, so please forgive my brevity, but: I suggest you look more at the fingertrap you’re in. Based on this post, I don’t think the way forward for you is to figure out how to tug perfectly forward on the trap. In a sense, it only strengthens the grip of the thing.
The “I know it but don’t feel it” or “Intellectually but not viscerally” or “In theory but not in practice” trap is one of the most widespread, easy-to-fall-into mental holes in occult, magical, and mystical practices of all varieties. I hear of it constantly.
I’d look closer at that trap than I would at getting some specific set of instructions for a magical assertion of will. The latter will not even make sense as an obstacle as you understand it to be now, once you address that more fundamental misunderstanding.
Originally commented by u/Utthana on 2019-07-18 18:53:06 (eu45ury)
/u/therewasguy In the spirit of this thread, I’m going to reply to your DM publicly here. If you’d rather move things to a private chat, just let me know.
Syncretik is absolutely right that frequencies don’t have to matter if you don’t want them to. A principle of subjective idealism, the philosophy upon which the whole sub is built, is that reality is subjective - that your mind (your knowledge, experiences, and will), yours alone, is fundamental for you. Everything within it, and that very much includes every spiritual teaching you’ve ever read about anywhere, is subject to you, and not apart from you in any way. The path you take is your path to forge.
It can be easier sometimes to allow power to (appear to) exist outside of your control and then “borrow” it, e.g. it’s easier for me to just say that chickens hatch eggs regardless of my consent or mindful involvement and then to get my eggs from chickens than it is for me to manifest my own eggs from nothingness, deliberately exempting chickens from the equation. The latter is possible, but vastly inconvenient in comparison for me right now. In other circumstances it would be more convenient, but for now, it’s not. Spiritual teachings are the same. You can accept ones you’ve already “othered” out in the world and follow them and make them work, or you can make your own. Both routes have pros and cons. But importantly, either way, you’re the one making the decision.
To quote an old song, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”
So it’s important to remember when you’re seeking wisdom from other people - like you are asking questions on this sub - that you’re really just seeking something that you feel comfortable empowering. You’re looking for something that you can believe in fully enough that you’ll make it real - not something which is already real, regardless of what you do, that you can just utilize. Nothing is already real without you. You are the music-maker.
And that’s right at the heart of the fingertrap: waiting for something that will work inherently regardless of whether you believe in it/empower it, because it’s already inherently powerful. You can do that with eggs no problem, since eggs fit into this worldview you’ve forged around you very neatly. But since you’re explicitly and specifically trying to do something which violates that worldview - it seems like your goal here is basically “perform an action which violates at least one rule that I’ve set up against actions” - you’ll obviously never find something out in the world that will do that. No piece of advice can hand that to you. There is no magic spell that will work no matter who casts it or when or why. And literally anything and everything can be a magic spell if the person casting it believes in and empowers it thusly.
Originally commented by u/Utthana on 2019-07-19 16:43:17 (eu75eub)