Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) said Sunday that the United States needs to accept that Ukraine will likely need to “cede some territory” to Russia to end the fighting. Vance told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” that he is opposed to sending more aid to Ukraine because he does not believe the country will ever be able to overpower Russia. He questioned why sending billions in aid to Ukraine is going to help the country at this point in its war against Russia, considering previous aid has yet to end the war. “What’s in America’s best interest is to accept Ukraine is going to have to cede some territory to the Russians, and we need to bring this war to a close,” Vance said. “But when I think about the great human tragedy here, hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans innocent have been killed in this conflict. The thing that’s in our interest and in theirs is to stop the killing.”

  • @[email protected]
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    I share the sentiment here, but it looks more and more that neither the usa or eu have the resolve to continue even with the current puny support.

    It seems that the dictator will get away with it. Realistic scenario is that Russia will not be able to get back into military shape for a decade and by that time putin will likely be gone and the world will have a whole different sets of problems.

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      Russia has no offensive capability. They are ground down. Putin has to mobilize again which he may not survive.

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        They are proving you wrong. They have enough soldiers that they pay a lot to join. Their drone capabilities are improving, they are in a war economy now and they can run that for some time for sure. Iran is helping, NK has stockpiles of munition and a thirst for rocket tech.

        What does Ukraine have? EU that promises 1mio bombs and delivers 300k? Usa, where half the voters don’t want to help anymore?

        • @Malek061
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          Let them use the. North Koren shells! They are old, bad, poorly made and are blowing up barrels. South Korea just gave a millions shells. Also, last time I checked, Russia had a mercenary group March on the capital. Russia is falling apart.

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            011 months ago

            I wish I was that optimistic. Maybe I would be if there wasn’t for a few hundred thousand armed Russians nobody cares about still available and the wavering minimal support from the west.

            EU is a joke. At least the Americans gave the 30 year old long range missiles.

        • Bo7a
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          311 months ago

          Half? Which corner of your ass did you pull this from?

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            -111 months ago

            What a cute ass comment, I guess? Would totally make sense if there wasn’t the fact of a trump presidency.

            Now tell me how that can’t happen again.

            • Bo7a
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              411 months ago

              It can happen again because the election system in the US is a fucking travesty.

              All I meant to say was that there is no way 50% of Americans support Republican bullshit. More like a solid 30% who are gerrymandered and electoral colleged into power.

              Pretty happy you found it cute though!.

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                111 months ago

                That’s why I said voters. It doesn’t matter, that’s not the point. Point is, it can happen again. Just a few slip ups from a frail octogenarian known for having slip ups. You think EU can pick up the slack? All they do is make vague promises then end up sueing eachother.