The U.N.'s climate body on Monday published its latest draft text of the deal it hopes to reach at the COP28 summit in Dubai, which includes a range of actions countries could take to reduce emissions.
  • geogleEnglish
    9•1 year ago

    I know you want it to be stated outright, which is unlikely to happen. However, section e does state pretty directly:

    (e) Reducing both consumption and production of fossil fuels, in a just, orderly and equitable manner so as to achieve net zero by, before, or around 2050 in keeping with the science;

    Yes, you can pick on ‘the science’ and what ‘net zero’ means, but unequivocally phasing out all fossil fuels in 27 years is not achievable unless we found ways to completely replace our current infrastructural needs by that time. This includes upscaling biodiesel and ethanol production to run existing machinery that cannot yet run on electric or hydrogen power, including planes, freighters, etc.

    • admiralteal
      8•1 year ago

      It is worth being wary of any pledges that list net zero as the end line.

      Net zero is actually not good enough right now. It’s almost certainly necessary to get to negative emissions for at least some period of time to undo damage. Which means it’s not a goal of getting to carbon neutral, the goal is to eliminate as many carbon emissions as we can.

      It’s becoming increasingly apparent that net zero is a very achievable goal even on a fairly short timeline. That all of the promises so many conservatives have about the disastrous effects it would have on the economy to pursue it are complete nonsense, and so we need to just commit and go for it. So now a lot of the biggest deniers and evildoers, are trying to subtly push for net zero being the final goal post instead of just another mile marker. It is a sort of thought-ending cliche, and it’s very clever.

      • themeatbridgeEnglish
        4•1 year ago

        net zero is a very achievable goal

        Citation needed.

    • @[email protected]English
      1•1 year ago

      Thats the whole point: it doesnt call for the reduction of fossil fuels. The idea behind the draft is that we continue to invest and consume fossil fuels until some magic technology saves us by capturing and storing the CO2.

    • @NuddingEnglish
      -1•1 year ago

      These are pipe dreams, the same way that the 1.5 pledges were.