We’ve upgraded lemmy.world to 0.18.1-rc.1 and rolled back that upgrade because of issues.

(If you had posted anything in those 10 minutes between upgrade and rollback, that post is gone. Sorry!)

The main issue we saw is that users can’t login anymore. Existing sessions still worked, but new logins failed (from macos, ios and android. From linux and windows it worked)

Also new account creation didn’t work.

I’ll create an issue for the devs and retry once it’s fixed.

Edit Contacted the devs, they tell me to try again with lemmy-ui at version 0.18.0. Will try again, brace for some downtime!

Edit 2 So we upgraded again, and it seemed to work nicely! But then it slowed down so much it was unuseable. There were many locks in the database. People reported many JSON errors. Sorry, we won’t be on 0.18.1 any time soon I’m afraid…

  • @axzxc1236
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    Reasons I can think of:

    1. The official Android client for lemmy, Jerboa, only supports 0.18 and later, unless users download older version from github and sideload manually.

    2. Sorting is broken pre 0.18, new posts keeps flowing in.

    3. Performance improvement by removing web socket from lemmy. (which fixes 2, which is why 1. happens)

    • @JdW
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      271 year ago

      Jerboa works fine with lemmy world, it just gives a warning and crashes on occasion. Not an issue to use it though.

      • @Disk
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        281 year ago

        Yes, if you are already logged in. If you are not logged in, or get logged out you will not be able to log back in until the server version is above 0.18

        • @DrTeeth
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          31 year ago

          And jerboa recommended logging out. Hmm.

      • @flawedFraction
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        231 year ago

        For me at least, I’m unable to change the community scope or sorting method. The only thing I can use Jerboa for is “local” and sorted by “active”. It isn’t totally unusable, but I would much rather be able to switch to subscribed and hot.

        • @rolaulten
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          51 year ago

          I had the same bug. A full restart of my phone seems to have fixed it.

          • @flawedFraction
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            61 year ago

            Unfortunately that didn’t work for me. Thanks for the idea, though. I’m sure it will work for some. I suspect that if I wiped the app and set everything back up it might work, but that’s more than I’m willing to do at the moment and I can live with the inconvenience for now.

      • @Texas_Hangover
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        151 year ago

        That sounds like Bethesda’s definition of “works fine”

        • @sorenant
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          31 year ago

          It works fine if you apply unofficial patch!

        • @pacjo
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          31 year ago

          It just works, it just works…

      • @axzxc1236
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        131 year ago

        I tried it again and you are totally correct if you see this message.

        • @JdW
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          71 year ago

          I tried it again and you are totally correct if you see this message.

          I do

      • @Guy_Fieris_Hair
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        81 year ago

        With the last couple updates jerboa has got to a point that I probably won’t even move to sync when it comes. I’m pretty happy with it. But if Lemmy Is Fun ever happens, I’m out.

      • @Guy_Fieris_Hair
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        71 year ago

        With the last couple updates jerboa has got to a point that I probably won’t even move to sync when it comes. I’m pretty happy with it. But if Lemmy Is Fun ever happens, I’m out.

        • @grue
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          41 year ago

          I’m of a similar mind: I’m happy with Jerboa, yet also looking forward to Slide.

      • @inverimus
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        71 year ago

        As a new user I tried logging in on Jerboa and it says the server must be on 0.18 and refuses the login.

      • @wheresyourshoe
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        61 year ago

        It won’t let me log in, so no, it doesn’t “work fine.” But I have six other apps for Lemmy, so I’m not worried. It’ll all be sorted eventually.

      • Cadenza
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        Well you’re a lucky one. Jerboa has been unusable for me and other folks post v0.34 since the first rc release of 0.18. I finally managed to downgrade to 0.34 and login after lots of black magic. It used to crash instantly, even on 0.34.

        That being said, good luck to lemmy.world admins and thanks a lot for the open comms !

      • @dis_honestfamiliar
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        61 year ago

        The latest update of jerboa did not let me browse all communities. I had to sideload a previous version.

      • Vanon
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        “crashes on occasion”

        Unfortunately, the occasion seems to be at least once every five minutes for me. thisisfine.jpg This is not fine and definitely a major issue. Especially as we get closer to July 1. After this news from lemmy.world, I will have to switch, until Sync arrives. Update: Liftoff is fantastic, give it a try!

    • @spaceduck
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      161 year ago

      Try wefwef.app on mobile

      (no I’m not a bot account shilling I just really like the app)

      • @stargazer4416
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        61 year ago

        You made me try it, and I’ve just switched from Jerboa! It has more of an “Infinity” feel to it. Also tried Liftoff today, wasn’t my cup of tea either.

        • @spaceduck
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          21 year ago

          The design is a copy of Apollo

      • @kingcake
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        41 year ago

        If there was a way to adjust the font sizes it would be 100% perfect. Damn! I’m surprised I hadn’t heard of it before. Thanks internet stranger!

      • kratoz29
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        21 year ago

        I have been testing this web app today and I’m really surprised of how it good it looks and behaves… I kinda want it as a standalone app now though.

      • @ferrent22
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        11 year ago

        I’m sold. 😊 I did need to try a couple of times to figure out I needed to swipe left to reply to a comment, though. But it looks good, works well, and I’ll get used to the quirks.

    • @WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
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      111 year ago

      The official Android client for lemmy, Jerboa, only supports 0.18 and later, unless users download older version from github and sideload manually.

      Even that won’t work, because Jerboa initially tries to connect to lemmy.ml which is running 0.18, which older versions of Jerboa aren’t compatible with. The app just crashes instantly without giving you the opportunity to log in to your instance.

      • @Darorad
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        21 year ago

        The old version is working fine for me, I had the crashing issue, but reinstalled and it’s working now

    • @Graphine
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      81 year ago

      Why the hell does Jerboa even limit support to 0.18? That’s so stupid.

      • @astanix
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        161 year ago

        Likely because Jebora is written as a side project of the devs of lemmy so it’s always going to be cutting edge

        • @Graphine
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          51 year ago

          I understand that. I’m not complaining about the quality. I’m just confused from a technical perspective why it doesn’t support rollback or older server versions in the event of…this.

          • @Darorad
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            61 year ago

            Fixing the issues with posts appearing and scrolling the page the backend needed some pretty drastic rewrites. I’m not super familiar, but from what I’ve seen of the code, it would be a decent amount more work to support both versions.

            Would it have been worth it? Yes, but it wasn’t anticipated that devs would stay on 0.0.17 for more than a day or two. With the time it takes for app stores to update, servers would have been updated before lemmy 0.0.45 was updated for the vast majority of users. At most, it would be a day or two instead of a week or two.

      • @average650
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        111 year ago

        The latest version only supports 0.18 because the backend works differently. Older versions of Jerboa support older backends of lemmy.

      • @bemenaker
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        91 year ago

        Connect for Lemmy works better.

        • @RxBrad
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      • @KrapKake
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        21 year ago

        I don’t know but I installed and older version of Jerboa from F-Droid store. I couldn’t login from the most recent version of Jerboa because of this so it was pretty much useless for me. Working fine so far.

        • @nsmnc
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    • @sorenant
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      I probably disabled auto updates on my end some time in the past because my Jerboa says its version 0.0.33 and it’s working without any noticeable problems. Thanks, past me.