• originalucifer
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    1811 months ago

    This accident was not caused directly or indirectly by immigration. Stating it as such is flat out racism.

    Overworked? Yep. Terrible tragedy? Definitely.

    Ya know this accident would never have occurred if white people didn’t invade canada

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      11 months ago

      I agree, There should have been a better policy. Your example PERFECTLY illustrates my point (to the extent it was a decision or lack of the Aboriginal folks not resolving to ensure we never took root) despite the fact I think its a shame it has to be like that and also Canada is basically impossible to totally regulate in terms of unauthorized access.

      • originalucifer
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        511 months ago

        so you agree that white people caused this accident, thanks for clearing that up!

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          agree that white people cause this accident

          Indirectly, people who influenced the system to be so loose and unsupervised as well as dangerously over-empowered “business owners” who lobby for continual erosion of safeguards and commonsense policy.

          I have a feeling the actual perpetrators (“policy”-makers, enforcers, corporate beneficiaries) come in all colors although I’m almost certain his direct employer/company was sufficiently diverse. Which makes sense because those who make their way thru the system can learn how to turn it on its head and unduly influence it

          They’ve been very quiet, huh? His company…

          • originalucifer
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            -111 months ago

            i was being sarcastic agreeing with the person i was replying to, because they are a piece of shit…

            • @cheese_greater
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              You guys are having great difficulty sticking to the facts, the most I’m seeing are personal attacks cuz you’re running out of rebuttals or substantive points to return in-kind. Its really sad and uninteresting. Take careof yourselves if you actually do experience human needsand impulses

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      Edit: you’re seriously gonna argue the two are not indirectly-related. There is no hope here

      What allowed or compelled those conditions? You don’t think his “bosses” ever threatened him with deportation if he didn’t bend the rules/reg one more time?

      So if he had never arrived here, you think those kids were marked by the universe for some insane fate that is conserved and was meant to be?

      • originalucifer
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        211 months ago

        i think that any accident that happens is an accident, regardless of the source of the human beings. jesus christ how can people be this hateful.

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          I don’t hate him. How can you say I hate him when I empathize with his case immensly (hence the difficult case. Him and his wife’s new life is being destroyed and I think he’s a lot more decent than many Canadians).

          I also wanted and advocated for letting him stay, not sure if it was on this platform but I’m between several Reddit-type formats

          Why do you make these statements without actually engaging substantively?

          Why are you so willing to use racism/hate as a proxy to let his deadbeat employers (who were objecively exploiting the immigration system for frwsh meat and cheap unregulated labor) completely off the hook, and any politicians or officials they likely bribed at some point)

          • originalucifer
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            411 months ago

            i am all for blaming the human that overworked this other human, and know damn well youre the recist fuck blaming a terrible tragedy on immigration.

            if you want to go after business owners, awesome. but why the word ‘immigration’ is used here in any capacity shows you seem to have a different motive than holding business owners accountable for being pieces of shit to humans.

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              11 months ago

              Ok

              Edit: also, how do you think the fucks doing this (his bosses) get to pull this shit at all? Loose Immigration system that as always is in favor of the big employers

              A regular citizen employee (economics permitting which is its own huge problem that everyone’s ok with) can just report the bullshit and hopefully be protected+ rewarded maybe.

              A person in his delicate immigration situation is beyond exploitable to the point of horrors like this predictably and naturally unfolding as has been the case here and, on the unemployable side, Ali Ibrahim