1. Meta/Facebook has a horrific track record on human rights:
- https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans
- https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
- https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587080/mark-zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-kara-swisher-interview
2. Meta/Facebook is trying to join the Fediverse. We need to defederate them.
3. If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net" (here's how on Mastodon https://fedi.tips/how-to-defederate-fediblock-a-server-on-mastodon/)
4. If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net". Your admin is listed on your server website's About page.
Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.
If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net”
If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.
No, that’s not a core concept of Fediverse, that’s exactly the opposite. You want echo chambers? There are plenty of them already. It should be the user who decides what content to see and with which instances to interact, not instance admins.
Imagine Chrome not allowing you to visit specific sites and then Firefox not allowing you to visit a different set of sites. That would be a death of the web.
Yeah, and it will end up with huge echochambers full of xenophobes scared of everything and defederating everyone. Defederation is the last step, not the first. Here, paranoia over what might happen years later down a very slippery slope makes people throw away the opportunity to actually grow the platform instead of leaving it with barely any people at all.
I went back and read it three times because I thought I was going crazy, it does say that - in charity you can say that he’s not saying it’s a xenophobic action but an action taken by xenophobes people, trivial distinction though.
Also though I will go a step further and say it is xenophobic because xeno is like in xenomorph, the alien wasn’t from a different country the word means from a different origin so fits perfectly apt to describe the situation as it’s the origin of their accounts. Though of course it’s common usage does normally imply nationality.
Do you see the comment from user “Maalus” immediately prior to the comment that you first replied to? That’s where it was said.
If you cannot see that comment it’d be interesting to understand why. Maybe you have blocked that user so can’t see his comment but you are seeing replies to it?
I don’t get why they want to defederate without any experience of it either. Let’s see what Meta brings to the table. Maybe they’ll shine a light on the Fediverse and we get a more varied group of people on the platform.
Anyone wondering it’s a long winded article blaming meta for a genocide, personally I don’t really see how it fits the conversation beyond ‘zuck bad’ because it’s nothing that’s going to happen here
Ability to choose with whom to federate with is a core concept of the Fediverse
If you don’t want any defederation, join an instance that doesn’t do it.
No, that’s not a core concept of Fediverse, that’s exactly the opposite. You want echo chambers? There are plenty of them already. It should be the user who decides what content to see and with which instances to interact, not instance admins.
Imagine Chrome not allowing you to visit specific sites and then Firefox not allowing you to visit a different set of sites. That would be a death of the web.
Imagine a worse, less fitting analogy
You can literally spin up your own instance in 20 minutes and see every instance ever if you’d like, it’s a choice and its good to have
You can build your variant of Chrome yourself as well. Analogy is fitting.
Yeah, and it will end up with huge echochambers full of xenophobes scared of everything and defederating everyone. Defederation is the last step, not the first. Here, paranoia over what might happen years later down a very slippery slope makes people throw away the opportunity to actually grow the platform instead of leaving it with barely any people at all.
baby its not xenophobic to defederate, calm down
No one said such a thing. Where did you get it from?
Go join a monolithic network if you are not interested in the features of the fediverse.
You have yet to show where your statement came from
They literally quoted that statement. Your lack of reading comprehension sounds like a you problem.
Read the original comment again. They didn’t state what this person is claiming at all.
And yet I’m the one who can’t read…
I went back and read it three times because I thought I was going crazy, it does say that - in charity you can say that he’s not saying it’s a xenophobic action but an action taken by xenophobes people, trivial distinction though.
Also though I will go a step further and say it is xenophobic because xeno is like in xenomorph, the alien wasn’t from a different country the word means from a different origin so fits perfectly apt to describe the situation as it’s the origin of their accounts. Though of course it’s common usage does normally imply nationality.
Do you see the comment from user “Maalus” immediately prior to the comment that you first replied to? That’s where it was said.
If you cannot see that comment it’d be interesting to understand why. Maybe you have blocked that user so can’t see his comment but you are seeing replies to it?
I don’t get why they want to defederate without any experience of it either. Let’s see what Meta brings to the table. Maybe they’ll shine a light on the Fediverse and we get a more varied group of people on the platform.
What Meta has brought to the table in the past. "Maybe we should give them a
secondthirdfourthumpteenth chance!Anyone wondering it’s a long winded article blaming meta for a genocide, personally I don’t really see how it fits the conversation beyond ‘zuck bad’ because it’s nothing that’s going to happen here
It is an illustration (and a particularly powerful one) of just where Meta’s ethics lie.
You don’t invite serial killers to your Halloween party. You don’t invite Meta to your online community. Same reason in both cases.