1. Meta/Facebook has a horrific track record on human rights:
- https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans
- https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
- https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587080/mark-zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-kara-swisher-interview
2. Meta/Facebook is trying to join the Fediverse. We need to defederate them.
3. If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net" (here's how on Mastodon https://fedi.tips/how-to-defederate-fediblock-a-server-on-mastodon/)
4. If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net". Your admin is listed on your server website's About page.
Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.
If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net”
If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.
They have their branding which will push people to use their platform. More people using their platform = more content coming from threads. Once they have enough posts from threads that people from other instances are used to seeing mostly threads content they’ll defederate. People will miss the volume of posts and then move to threads.
Where will those users come from? Not from the Fediverse. There aren’t enough Fediverse users to sustain even one month of Threads growth. They do not care about the Fediverse at all.
Threads has lots of users because they just signed everyone up who has an Instagram account. They aren’t trying to steal Fediverse users or “extinguish” the technology, they’re trying to be a Twitter alternative.
Also, people here don’t need extra content from Threads. We already have content. You can just personally block Threads if you don’t like it. It’s your choice.
They do not care for growth or anything else. They’re just implementing ActivityPub to look like “the good guys” compared to Musk, and also probably to try and look nice in front of the European Union. “See? We’re implementing open protocols, we’re not a gatekeeper anymore!”
Corporate servers with corp funding and corp advertising using existing instagram and facebook support to onboard more users and generate content to the point where they drown out non-thread content to a point where, theoretically, non-thread servers become silent for content and more read-only.
Then, they pull the plug, and the fledgeling communities we had here have withered and have to restart all over again.
Who knows if thats the actual goal, but thats the idea.
just by being the biggest player in the system so all the activity is on their server, then they shut it down and leave the rest of the drivers with a big hole in the community.
You might not understand how they are going to control it, but they do. Facebook doesn’t do anything without a plan on how to either get a ton of money from something or a plan on how to destroy that thing. So the fact that they are trying to integrate into the fediverse means they have a plan. They are smarter and more evil than anyone here in the area of making money and destroying competitors, and they will 100% do one of those things, probably both.
Give me an example on how they would be able to “extinguish” the fediverse then. This entire thread is full of people saying this slogan, yet nobody has explained how a free open source software would even be susceptible to any attempts at “extinguishing”.
Ah yes, filled to brim with shills. Totally not paranoid people who can’t even explain how facebook could ruin the fediverse in any way.
If he wanted your data, he would have gotten it already. It’s not hard to scrape the fediverse at all.
All that would happen is more people would join the fediverse, nothing more. But by all means, be scared, defederate from everything and enjoy your small bubble with 3 active users.
Your rationale is truly bizarre and somewhat worrying but I won’t spend too much brain power trying to understand. Cheers to you anyway and happy holidays
Yeah because you are not here to understand, you are here with a blanket “meta bad” atitude. When the “let’s wait and see” stance is one that you are scared of, there is no chance of talking in good faith with you
I don’t understand how they would control it
They have their branding which will push people to use their platform. More people using their platform = more content coming from threads. Once they have enough posts from threads that people from other instances are used to seeing mostly threads content they’ll defederate. People will miss the volume of posts and then move to threads.
Where will those users come from? Not from the Fediverse. There aren’t enough Fediverse users to sustain even one month of Threads growth. They do not care about the Fediverse at all.
Threads has lots of users because they just signed everyone up who has an Instagram account. They aren’t trying to steal Fediverse users or “extinguish” the technology, they’re trying to be a Twitter alternative.
Also, people here don’t need extra content from Threads. We already have content. You can just personally block Threads if you don’t like it. It’s your choice.
“They do not care about the Fediverse at all.”
And yet here we are with Meta trying to join the fediverse.
Pretty fucking odd behaviour for an entity that “do not care at all”, no?
They do not care for growth or anything else. They’re just implementing ActivityPub to look like “the good guys” compared to Musk, and also probably to try and look nice in front of the European Union. “See? We’re implementing open protocols, we’re not a gatekeeper anymore!”
Corporate servers with corp funding and corp advertising using existing instagram and facebook support to onboard more users and generate content to the point where they drown out non-thread content to a point where, theoretically, non-thread servers become silent for content and more read-only.
Then, they pull the plug, and the fledgeling communities we had here have withered and have to restart all over again.
Who knows if thats the actual goal, but thats the idea.
That’s exactly their goal
makes sense. and the alternative is that the fediverse rips itself apart before then by de-federating with itself
just by being the biggest player in the system so all the activity is on their server, then they shut it down and leave the rest of the drivers with a big hole in the community.
So… we would be back to exactly how we are now?
You might not understand how they are going to control it, but they do. Facebook doesn’t do anything without a plan on how to either get a ton of money from something or a plan on how to destroy that thing. So the fact that they are trying to integrate into the fediverse means they have a plan. They are smarter and more evil than anyone here in the area of making money and destroying competitors, and they will 100% do one of those things, probably both.
So basically your argument is “they are Satan but I have no idea how they could actually do anything. But they are Satan!”
They’re a known bad actor and embrace, extend, extinguish is a demonstrated method for eliminating platforms like fediverse.
Give me an example on how they would be able to “extinguish” the fediverse then. This entire thread is full of people saying this slogan, yet nobody has explained how a free open source software would even be susceptible to any attempts at “extinguishing”.
Why are you defending Zuckerberg?
Remember when Mark Zuckerberg Called People Who Handed Over Their Data “Dumb Fucks”?
I’m seriously starting to think Lemmy is being filled with shills. It’s the only logical reason here
Ah yes, filled to brim with shills. Totally not paranoid people who can’t even explain how facebook could ruin the fediverse in any way.
If he wanted your data, he would have gotten it already. It’s not hard to scrape the fediverse at all.
All that would happen is more people would join the fediverse, nothing more. But by all means, be scared, defederate from everything and enjoy your small bubble with 3 active users.
Your rationale is truly bizarre and somewhat worrying but I won’t spend too much brain power trying to understand. Cheers to you anyway and happy holidays
Yeah because you are not here to understand, you are here with a blanket “meta bad” atitude. When the “let’s wait and see” stance is one that you are scared of, there is no chance of talking in good faith with you