Man that still absolutely hurt but glad it’s out there to show for why we have to be worried of well funded alternatives with not much tracing on how they rose or got the funds.
The Green party didn’t even file all their paperwork for the last election and instead threw a tantrum about it. Pathetic that they are considered the closest to an 3rd party we might have.
i was. thanks for the reply, but what does that prove? i can get you dozens of photos of Biden or some other democratic personality in the same room with Putin
this whole thing about anyone who’s not 100% for the DNC’s choice of candidate must be a Putin puppet is paranoid
powerful people i don’t like nor trust will benefit from Biden’s election, and the same can be said about Trump. those are not the reasons to choose one over the other. the same applies to any other election
this whole attitude seems very obscurantist and very undemocratic to me
Anyone taking votes from Trump’s top opponent is doing this country a disservice. We have a first past the post voting system. Voting 3rd party is a vote against your interests.
Imagine having the gall to run for office and take votes from the establishment because voters actually agree with your platform.
If you’re not voting for the blue team you need to get our head out of your ass and show a little gratitude. You don’t know what’s in your best interest, so don’t even think about any other party.
In fact, we should just ban all 3rd parties. That way nobody can be misled into thinking anyone other than Democrats are looking out for their best interest.
that’s an undemocratic appeal to the “tactical vote”. i respect anyone’s choice on how they use theirs, but after having been manipulated years ago on that premise, i have refused to do it again
I’ll respect the idea that they have a choice, I will judge them if their choice is stupidly anti-pragmatic, though.
The presidential race is fucked. We’re not making it fair any time soon, especially not with a vote for a candidate who doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning. The best we can do is ensure that the candidate who’ll do the least damage wins. Anything else spells disaster.
In the mean time, vote for better candidates in state and local elections, where an outsider has a chance at winning. And if they do, they have a better chance at changing the system so it doesn’t suck.
That’s not an option in US politics, unfortunately. But one candidate would probably say “nuke Palestine!” and want to send troops, or maybe not depending on what Putin tells him to do.
i naively believed the other lemming’s statement but Cornel West’s running. if Jill Stein wins her party’s primary, that’ll be two candidates with a history of condemning Israel’s war on palestinians, both having described that state’s actions as genocidal
And a vote for either is a vote for Trump. But if you want to bury your head in the sand and condemn the country to oblivion on principle, well hey, it’s a free country for the next 12 months.
nope, a vote for some candidate is a vote for that candidate. i’m not burying my head in the sand because i’m not an american voter. i’m a foreigner that’s been a victim of lying imperialist presidents from the bullshit land of the free fairyland for a long freaking time
you claim the US to be a free country for at least the next 12 months, and i think you have your head in the sand. just because i think Trump is way worse than Biden doesn’t mean i don’t know for a fact that he’s really bad
i came here because @[email protected] falsely claimed that no one else is on the table
second, it seems to me that you’re claiming i’m trying to influence US elections because i don’t agree with you. i started typing in here because i was mislead by a lie, asked for clarification, and then added information for other readers to clarify that lie
you’re comparing my posts to the actions of Cambridge Analytica (lol!!) that’s really sensasionalist and manipulative
Okay so technically others are on the table, but realistically you only have two options. My country uses a representative parliament, your party needs to hold a certain amount of votes to enter parliament because each (literal) seat in parliament corresponds to a certain amount of votes. You obviously can’t divide a person in two, so you need to clear the bar.
The U.S. has a singular winner. Unless for some reason a very large portion of voters decide to vote for a third party (and the same third party at that), you’re unlikely to ever see a third party candidate actually win.
How about the candidate who will hold Isreal accountable. Which one is that?
They’re not on the table.
who’s gonna be the Green Party candidate?
Putin’s friend Stein
Jill Stein is a friend of Putin?! how did you find that out?
If you’re serioualy asking:
https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620
Man that still absolutely hurt but glad it’s out there to show for why we have to be worried of well funded alternatives with not much tracing on how they rose or got the funds.
The Green party didn’t even file all their paperwork for the last election and instead threw a tantrum about it. Pathetic that they are considered the closest to an 3rd party we might have.
i was. thanks for the reply, but what does that prove? i can get you dozens of photos of Biden or some other democratic personality in the same room with Putin
this whole thing about anyone who’s not 100% for the DNC’s choice of candidate must be a Putin puppet is paranoid
powerful people i don’t like nor trust will benefit from Biden’s election, and the same can be said about Trump. those are not the reasons to choose one over the other. the same applies to any other election
this whole attitude seems very obscurantist and very undemocratic to me
Anyone taking votes from Trump’s top opponent is doing this country a disservice. We have a first past the post voting system. Voting 3rd party is a vote against your interests.
This is the only correct take.
Imagine having the gall to run for office and take votes from the establishment because voters actually agree with your platform.
If you’re not voting for the blue team you need to get our head out of your ass and show a little gratitude. You don’t know what’s in your best interest, so don’t even think about any other party.
In fact, we should just ban all 3rd parties. That way nobody can be misled into thinking anyone other than Democrats are looking out for their best interest.
that’s an undemocratic appeal to the “tactical vote”. i respect anyone’s choice on how they use theirs, but after having been manipulated years ago on that premise, i have refused to do it again
I’ll respect the idea that they have a choice, I will judge them if their choice is stupidly anti-pragmatic, though.
The presidential race is fucked. We’re not making it fair any time soon, especially not with a vote for a candidate who doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning. The best we can do is ensure that the candidate who’ll do the least damage wins. Anything else spells disaster.
In the mean time, vote for better candidates in state and local elections, where an outsider has a chance at winning. And if they do, they have a better chance at changing the system so it doesn’t suck.
We can’t even hold ourselves accountable
That’s not an option in US politics, unfortunately. But one candidate would probably say “nuke Palestine!” and want to send troops, or maybe not depending on what Putin tells him to do.
Neither of them, lol. Find another wedge issue to make your grand moral stand over.
i naively believed the other lemming’s statement but Cornel West’s running. if Jill Stein wins her party’s primary, that’ll be two candidates with a history of condemning Israel’s war on palestinians, both having described that state’s actions as genocidal
And a vote for either is a vote for Trump. But if you want to bury your head in the sand and condemn the country to oblivion on principle, well hey, it’s a free country for the next 12 months.
nope, a vote for some candidate is a vote for that candidate. i’m not burying my head in the sand because i’m not an american voter. i’m a foreigner that’s been a victim of lying imperialist presidents from the bullshit land of the free fairyland for a long freaking time
you claim the US to be a free country for at least the next 12 months, and i think you have your head in the sand. just because i think Trump is way worse than Biden doesn’t mean i don’t know for a fact that he’s really bad
i came here because @[email protected] falsely claimed that no one else is on the table
Considering you have no skin in the game, do you think it’s proper to try and influence the political process of another country?
I didn’t like it when Cambridge Analytica did it in my country.
first, most of the world has a skin in this game
second, it seems to me that you’re claiming i’m trying to influence US elections because i don’t agree with you. i started typing in here because i was mislead by a lie, asked for clarification, and then added information for other readers to clarify that lie
you’re comparing my posts to the actions of Cambridge Analytica (lol!!) that’s really sensasionalist and manipulative
Duverger’s Law says you don’t know what you’re talking about.
yeah it’s not the first time you stamp that out of someone.
/s i really think bullying people into the same choice as yours is very democratic
Cry more, propagandist.
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Okay so technically others are on the table, but realistically you only have two options. My country uses a representative parliament, your party needs to hold a certain amount of votes to enter parliament because each (literal) seat in parliament corresponds to a certain amount of votes. You obviously can’t divide a person in two, so you need to clear the bar.
The U.S. has a singular winner. Unless for some reason a very large portion of voters decide to vote for a third party (and the same third party at that), you’re unlikely to ever see a third party candidate actually win.