So wait, are you talking about communism or authoritarianism/fascism? It’s fine to disagree on things, but you should probably know what you’re disagreeing with.
In the US, communal groups are all over the place. Families typically aren’t capitalist, they’re communist. You don’t see grandma getting kicked out of Thanksgiving when she’s too old to bring a casserole. Religious organizations are often communal, taking offerings from those who have a surplus and distributing it to the homeless or poorer members who are in need. Small towns where everyone knows each other are often communal; you’d rather keep good friendly people around even when they’re going through a rough patch than let them lose their house and be replaced with someone who might hurt the town.
You’ll also find that most totalitarian dictatorships don’t go around calling themselves “totalitarian dictatorships” for the same reason movie villains don’t walk around with a “villain” t-shirt on. Most of them start with a promise of getting people through a hard time using a communist ideology. Then they leverage that to justify using force to ensure they stay communist. Then they use the force to take unilateral control of everything, and you no longer have communism, ex. China.
People who blindly endorse communism are likely being naive. But people who blindly curse communism are equally, if not more naive, considering how much they’ve likely benefitted from communist organizations in their life.
This is a very long and not well thought out argument that I don’t have the energy to even respond to.
I’ve never benefited from economic communism or economic communist systems. Ever. And most people in capitalist countries have not. To say so is such a stretch that’s it’s bordering the line between “stretch” and “downright bullshit”
So wait, are you talking about communism or authoritarianism/fascism? It’s fine to disagree on things, but you should probably know what you’re disagreeing with.
In the US, communal groups are all over the place. Families typically aren’t capitalist, they’re communist. You don’t see grandma getting kicked out of Thanksgiving when she’s too old to bring a casserole. Religious organizations are often communal, taking offerings from those who have a surplus and distributing it to the homeless or poorer members who are in need. Small towns where everyone knows each other are often communal; you’d rather keep good friendly people around even when they’re going through a rough patch than let them lose their house and be replaced with someone who might hurt the town.
You’ll also find that most totalitarian dictatorships don’t go around calling themselves “totalitarian dictatorships” for the same reason movie villains don’t walk around with a “villain” t-shirt on. Most of them start with a promise of getting people through a hard time using a communist ideology. Then they leverage that to justify using force to ensure they stay communist. Then they use the force to take unilateral control of everything, and you no longer have communism, ex. China.
People who blindly endorse communism are likely being naive. But people who blindly curse communism are equally, if not more naive, considering how much they’ve likely benefitted from communist organizations in their life.
This is a very long and not well thought out argument that I don’t have the energy to even respond to.
I’ve never benefited from economic communism or economic communist systems. Ever. And most people in capitalist countries have not. To say so is such a stretch that’s it’s bordering the line between “stretch” and “downright bullshit”