• capital
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        241 year ago

        I don’t think lack of training was this guys issue.

    • @[email protected]
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      241 year ago

      Switzerland also has heavily regulated ammunition. You can’t just go to the store and buy some bullets, like in Czechia

      • UltraMagnus0001
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        61 year ago

        Like Chris Rocks stand up. Charge more for the bullets and people will think more about killing. paraphrase

      • @Veneroso
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        11 year ago

        The Swiss solution really is what should be followed.

        • @Custoslibera
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          11 year ago

          The solution to allow gun ownership is conscription?

          No thanks.

          • @Veneroso
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            81 year ago

            If you follow the constitution, the right to bear arms is for a well regulated militia. Not for a stressed 18 year old buying an AR-15 at Walmart to shoot up rioters from another state.

            • @SupraMario
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              11 year ago

              Yes totally forgot about that the people part…go read some federalist papers and a few history books the 2nd is for the people not the militia.

              • @Veneroso
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                01 year ago

                Hey don’t cry about unborn babies but be pro school shootings there bud. The founders had single shot musket rifles not semi automatic rifles. If you want to be constructionist then ban the sale of anything other than breach loaders with separate shell and powder charge and have a good day.

                • lad
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                  21 year ago

                  Isn’t California doing something like that?

                • @SupraMario
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                  11 year ago

                  First off, I’m pro-choice. I’m just not an ignorant naive tool like you seem to be. The founders weren’t idiots they knew tech wasn’t going to stop, you could also own warships during those days, the equivalent of owning a nuclear attack sub basically. If you think the 2nd only applies to single shot muskets, then the Internet isn’t covered by the first amendment in your mind. Being ignorant of history doesn’t magically make you correct.

                  • @Veneroso
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                    11 year ago

                    Look, there are ways to make this work. I’m not saying that we shouldn’t have guns. I own one myself. However, maybe there should be a 30 day waiting period? Mental health fitness assessment? Anything?

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              You might not like where that logic goes. The Supreme Court took a stance in United States v. Miller (1939) that the NFA’s provisions on short barreled shotguns could be enforced on the basis that it’s not a weapon that would be used by a well-regulated militia.

              That brings us to a conclusion that literally nobody likes. The government could ban shorty shotguns and .22 rimfire, because those aren’t militia weapons. It could not ban fully automatic weapons or even rocket launchers.

              • @Veneroso
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                11 year ago

                We have to come up with something. I am a gun owner. There are legitimate uses for them. But a rifle marksman course requirement? Gun safety classes? 30 day waiting period? Mental health screening? Accountability if you buy it for someone else who uses it to commit violence? Anything?

                Something has to stop the senseless violence.

                I know that it won’t stop it.

                People in Brittain use knives… Acid in the middle east.

                The difference there is that the harm is limited to a few people and not these mass casualty events.

          • @Veneroso
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            11 year ago

            If people learned how to defend themselves and then also everyone knew how to use them suddenly gun culture changes and it’s like a tool instead of a status symbol. If you don’t want to serve, there are non-combat roles. If you don’t like it then hey maybe you should invent bullet proof kids.

          • @[email protected]
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            -21 year ago

            The only way someone should be allowed to own a gun is after rigorous training, like in the military.

            Only then do you have “good guy with a gun”

        • @[email protected]
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          -11 year ago

          Mandatory conscription is probably my most “out there” political belief. I think the benefits would be vast! I don’t think it would prevent mass shootings in America, though.

          • @Veneroso
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            11 year ago

            Conscription doesn’t mean war. It means being prepared. And yes maybe we could be more prepared to deal with this stupidity and remove the gun culture if it wasn’t special anymore.

            • @[email protected]
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              21 year ago

              I think one of the benefits would be less war since every citizen would be personally affected by it. Also all the public works and infrastructure. And healthcare. It could be great! Maybe it would help with all the “lonely men” culture that we hear so much about, and likely plays into some of the gun culture. I guess we’ll never know since that won’t happen here, though.