- cross-posted to:
- weirdway
- cross-posted to:
- weirdway
I was lurking on some old threads and something caught my attention on a previous discussion we had here. I seek more clarity around the subject. Copy pasting below :
mindseal: Those rules set up by the dream.
mindseal : Dreams do not set up any rules. The dreamers do. However, if the dreamer is not conscious of having set up any rules, they cannot deliberately change those rules either.
therewasguy: There is no reason for the world to be defined in anyway like sun having light properties or so. Imagine a world where even a rock has lighting properties or the water containing land like properties. Their’s no reason why anything is the way it is
mindseal: There is no objective reason, but there is a reason. The reason is your will as the dreamer. It’s your will as the dreamer of this dream that makes the water wet and land solid. If you’re not conscious of this you cannot deliberately mess around with any such so-called “natural laws.”
therewasguy: our very host of whatever we are in, makes us think we’re separate from everything else
mindseal : No, it’s not a host. It’s you. Don’t look up. Look within. You are not a human being. You’re humaning, but aren’t a human. At least from the POV of subjective idealism that’s true, and that’s what we are here to discuss.
Can the Law of attraction dream constant be broken and be changed to something else in this dream?
To me from my understanding, I feel as if the law of attraction has been very dominant into my life, I guess it’s from how I’ve bridged my beliefs for it to be very true. I’m wondering if it’s possible to turn it off and change/will it to work otherwise? I’ve tried to contemplate this for awhile but i seem to be stuck within myself. I would like some guidance aid. Thanks.
That’s a very interesting question! Basically, if you can influence anything within the dream, could you also influence the ability to do so?
I subscribe to the idea that reality is what we see it as. There is not necessarily an objective truth, so to speak. If you see reality as fluid and malleable, it will yield to you accordingly. If you see reality as unchangeable and rigid, you’ll only be able to influence that which you believe you can.
If we can ‘turn off’ any natural law, why would the law of attraction be any different? After all, before you knew of it or learned about it, did it exist? Does it exist independently of you?
If you’d really like to eradicate the influence this seeming law has on your life, I suppose it would be useful to just assume it doesn’t exist. It might feel like denial at first but if you keep pushing through and stick by your assumption, it’ll eventually ‘disappear.’ Ironically enough, by doing that, you’re using the law of attraction to rid of the law of attraction!
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2019-01-11 17:47:29 (eds7j11)
I’ve been used to living via law of attraction, I wonder if i might accidentally change my dream to being more chaotic with it off, with having no way of turning it on again since it no longer exists.
Originally commented by u/therewasguy on 2019-01-11 17:56:06 (eds840w)
I don’t think you’d necessarily change your dream to being more chaotic with it off, unless you possess a notion that the law of attraction keeps your life calm or in check. If need be, while turning the law off, you can also intend for your life to remain as it is, without help of the law.
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2019-01-11 18:00:50 (eds8fiz)