we live in hell

I don’t even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they’re saying…hey do you want a worse experience?

  • @9point6
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    11 months ago

    I agree with you for the most part that there’s no reason to connect them to the internet, however:

    Most modern TVs have Bluetooth and WiFi radios, therefore they’re never truly isolated, and consequently that means if there’s a security flaw, it can potentially be exploited without physical access.

    Now your priorities (and frankly, hardware) will obviously differ from mine, but that risk alone is enough of a reason for me to connect things up in order to receive software updates. Of course, the privilege of getting software updates for your telly is not ubiquitous, but most manufacturers can issue updates if there is a good enough reason to do so

    • @EdibleFriend
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      1111 months ago

      If its never been connected to the internet…wtf are they gonna do if they hack it? what are they going to get? it will have no credit card information, no personal information of any kind.

      • @Jerkface
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        511 months ago

        They could connect it to the Internet, I guess.

      • @CosmicTurtle
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        311 months ago

        The problem is that because the hardware is there, a determined person with physical access can change the settings to join a network you don’t control.

        Ideally, you can open the TV and remove the wifi modules but I suspect that might be beyond the skills of most TV owners.

        Tbh, I stopped owning a TV since college. I watch everything on my computer or phone now.

        • @EdibleFriend
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          511 months ago

          Wait…so the fear here is that they will take my tv, that i don’t have connected to the internet and…connect it to a network i don’t have? Whats the point of going through that trouble? Whats the gain?

      • Endorkend
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        211 months ago

        There’s microphones and even cameras in many of these TVs.

      • @9point6
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        111 months ago

        Those radios may have a flaw that allows someone to connect to them without direct physical access, wardriving is a similar idea. Particularly the Bluetooth stack, since modern TVs often use Bluetooth for their remotes, so it’s always going to be powered and active.

        Then you’ve got to remember a lot of TVs have shit like cameras and mics now days. Even without that, if an attacker can take control of something with a WiFi radio, it can become a jumping point to exploit other devices near your TV. I mean it doesn’t even need to be an exploit, e.g. if your phone disappears from WiFi range, maybe you’ve gone out—that’s a good time to rob you.

        Sure it’s all pretty unlikely, but it’s a non zero threat. Particularly when you consider that TV OS software is often like swiss cheese when it comes to security.

    • LostXOR
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      211 months ago

      Another option for the even more security-minded is to physically disable the radios.