We’re closing this thread. Everything that could be said has been said. Thank you
Original Post:
Today, we want to inform everyone that we have decided to defederate from https://exploding-heads.com/. We understand that defederating should always be a last resort, and individuals can certainly block communities. However, blocking alone does not prevent potential harm to vulnerable communities.
After carefully reviewing the instance, reported posts, and multiple comments from the community, we have concluded that exploding-heads is not adhering to the Lemmy or Citizen Code of Conduct. Therefore, we cannot, in good faith, continue to federate with an instance that consistently promotes hate, racism, and bullying.
Examples:
https://lemmy.world/post/577526 - Community Moderator Harassment
https://exploding-heads.com/post/92194 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/90780 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/91488 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/93725 - Community Moderator Post
Again, deciding to defederate from an instance is not taken lightly. In the future, we will continue to review instances on a case-by-case bases.
As for our community, please refrain from posting or commenting with hateful words as well. Arguing back and calling people names is not the solution. The best course of action is to report the posts or comments violating our server rules.
Lemmy Code of Conduct
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
Citizen Code of Conduct https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md
“We are committed to providing a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.”
While I agree that EH contains some hateful material I would have preferred if the lemmy.world community was some how included in the decision beforehand.
I’m sure in this case the result would still have been federation. But it would feel less like someone else needs to protect me from some idiots trying to be edgy.
I run a mastodon instance and I wouldn’t ask my users for feedback regarding defederating anything. I wrote the rules for the instance and it’s my decision whether or not another instance (be it the instance itself or its users) is breaking the rules. Users can migrate elsewhere if they have a problem with that. There’s some shit that I will never allow anywhere near my instance, full stop.
Community input is great for a lot of things, but defederation isn’t one of them imo. That’s an admin decision.
Yep, at the end of the day it’s your instance, so it’s your responsibility and if people don’t like it they can choose another instance with different rules or pay for their own. At most, maybe the people who actually donate via open collective or the patreon should have a hand in the decision because they do actually keep the lights on, but ultimately if you’re donating you have a level of trust in the people who run the instance(s) to make the right calls.
Great if it works for you and your community on mastodon. I still feel different about how to handle this but it’s not a deal breaker for me.
I believe it can be reasonable to defederate without including the community beforehand, as long as it communicated as transparent as it has been done here, and allows discussion of the decision afterwards. If the content is as harmful as the examples make it out to be, the faster the instance is defederated, the better. It seems to me that if the decision was wrong or the community against it, it could just as fast be re-federated.
It’s okay if you agree with the admins way of handling this. As long as I don’t get the feeling the admins defederate from everything that voices opinion opposing theirs, I won’t leave lemmy.world over this.