• OccamsTeapot
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    2 years ago

    Why are we hellbent on asking Israel to just sit and take it?

    Stop killing innocents =/= “sit and take it”

    If Israel had conducted this war in a reasonable fashion and actually focused on Hamas they wouldn’t be facing this criticism. 1,200 dead on October 7th. 20,000+ dead in Gaza. Isn’t this enough?

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      2 years ago

      What do you think Israel should be doing to lower the number of innocent civilians killed?

      They’re already doing way more to prevent civilian deaths than most people would expect, conversely hamas goes out of their way to kill innocent civilians every chance they get.

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        2 years ago

        Maybe not bomb hospitals and apartments? Funnel fleeing civilians through active combat zones? Maybe not force Palestinians off of their properties?

        Hamas is committing atrocities that are par for the terrorism course. We should t expect them to play by the rules.

        Isreal is a globally recognized and sanctioned government, committing genocide and war crimes.

        Both sides need to stop.

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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        2 years ago

        I want them to just fucking stop until they’ve figured out how to accomplish their purported mission without going full Holocaust, unless of course that is their mission. It’s their fucking job, not mine.

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          2 years ago

          I think that’s an unfair representation of what Israel is doing.

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              What I mean is that comparing an occupation to the holocaust is unfair because the Arab citizens of Israel aren’t treated as second class citizens, they arent isolated in ghettos and they certainly aren’t being rounded up and placed in concentration camps.

              If Gaza and the West Bank want the violence to stop they need to make strides towards peace, otherwise why would Israel just hand them autonomy on a silver platter if it means 100+ more October 7ths?

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      2 years ago

      Rockets are still shot at Israel. They had a fairly large barrage the other day. Will that stop under your cease fire?

      Or is it Israel ceases and Hamas fires?

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        2 years ago

        Will that stop under your cease fire?

        Yes of course. That’s what it means

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          2 years ago

          Then tell Hamas, because it takes two, and they ain’t dancing.

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            2 years ago

            Maybe if Israel indiscriminately bombs some more civilians Hamas will change their mind and start dancing?

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              2 years ago

              So if Israel stops then Hamas will stop and return all the hostages. That’s quite a fairy tale.

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                  I prefer to be realistic and acknowledge both sides have to agree and forcing a ceasefire, which you can’t, on one won’t do much good. Thanks for the name calling, BTW.