Are we purchase shaming people here now for buying a cheap fucking domain on Cloudflare? You are so tediously petty, it amazes me people care to tolerate this.
Also cf is about the only way to make federation affordable and safe. If we didn’t use cf on programming.dev, the server charges per month would bankrupt me. I’m not getting nearly enough donations to cover the bandwidth costs for every single call, cf covers like 70% of the bandwidth for free just due to caching. And cf also allows you to block and report child porn, thus taking another burden off server administrators.
People that think you shouldn’t use cf just do not understand what it takes to run an instance.
And cf also allows you to block and report child porn
That’s been tried. When someone reported CP to Cloudflare, CF demanded the identity of the whiste blower then doxxed them to the offending CF user, who then published the whistle blower’s identity so their users could retaliate. When the CEO (Matthew Prince) was confronted about this, his reply was that the whistle blowers “should have used fake names”. Then this company you support had the nerve to claim to have a privacy pledge: “[A]ny personal information you provide to us is just that: personal and private.”
Also cf is about the only way to make federation affordable and safe. (emphasis mine)
Forcing children to reveal their residential IP addresses to the fedi whereby any interested person (read: child preditors) can derive their approximate location – do you really think that’s a good idea for safety?
What are you even thinking? It most certainly is not safe to expose 20%+ of everyone’s traffic to a single corporation.
… nobody reports cp to cf. cf has a literal csam scanner that pretty much ever fediverse site is using. I own programming.dev. It’s in use there. You clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Have a nice day, I’m really not in the mood to talk with you anymore.
You were given plenty of references. You can verify it yourself if you want to get a clue – or continue to spread misinfo to the contrary. You are disservicing your users and the fedi by maintaining patronage to the privacy-abusing corp.
If you truly don’t understand the problems with Cloudflare, why not embrace transparency and inform people who visit your site that CF is used and that CF sees all their traffic despite the padlock? If you are proud of this, why conceal it?
“Petty” for not supporting the elitist exclusivity that you support? Cloudflare blocks impoverished communities whose ISPs use CGNAT because they cannot afford an IPv4 for everyone. Shame on CF pushers and shame on you for supporting marginalization by giant corps while backing privacy abuse.
That’s not true. Cloudflare marginalizes both normal users and street-wise users. In particular:
users whose ISP uses CGNAT to distribute a limited range of IPv4 addresses (this generally impacts poor people in impoverished regions)
the Tor community
VPN users
users of public libraries, and generally networks where IP addresses are shared
privacy enthusiasts who will not disclose ~25% of their web traffic to one single corporation in a country without privacy safeguards
blind people who disable images in their browsers (which triggers false positives for robots, as scripts are generally not interested in images either)
the permacomputing community and people on limited internet connections, who also disable browser images to reduce bandwidth which makes them appear as bots
people who actually run bots – Cloudflare is outspokenly anti-robot and treats beneficial bots the same as malicious bots
…
There are likely more oppressed groups beyond that because there is no transparency with Cloudflare.
Not exactly. !showerthoughts@lemmy.world was a poor choice, as is:
!showerthoughts@zerobytes.monster ← Cloudflare
!showerthoughts@sh.itjust.works ← Cloudflare
!showerthoughts@lemmy.ca ← Cloudflare
!showerthoughts@lemm.ee ← Cloudflare
!hotshowerthoughts@x69.org ← Cloudflare, and possibly irrelevant
!showerthoughts@lemmy.ml ← not CF, but copious political baggage, abusive moderation & centralized by disproportionate size
They’re all shit & the OP’s own account is limited to creating a new community on #lemmyWorld. !showerthoughts@lemmy.ml would be the lesser of evils but the best move would be create an acct on a digital rights-respecting instance that allows community creations and then create showerthoughts community there.
(EDIT) !showerThoughts@fedia.io should address these issues.
It’s an abuse of the fediverse and antithetical to #decentralization to use Cloudflare. And ironically your comment comes in response to broken functionality manifesting from links to exclusive venues appearing in an openly public forum.
#digitalExclusion
Shame this is posted on a centralized Cloudflare instance, which causes problems for people using Tor,VPNs,CGNAT,etc:
Are we purchase shaming people here now for buying a cheap fucking domain on Cloudflare? You are so tediously petty, it amazes me people care to tolerate this.
Also cf is about the only way to make federation affordable and safe. If we didn’t use cf on programming.dev, the server charges per month would bankrupt me. I’m not getting nearly enough donations to cover the bandwidth costs for every single call, cf covers like 70% of the bandwidth for free just due to caching. And cf also allows you to block and report child porn, thus taking another burden off server administrators.
People that think you shouldn’t use cf just do not understand what it takes to run an instance.
That’s been tried. When someone reported CP to Cloudflare, CF demanded the identity of the whiste blower then doxxed them to the offending CF user, who then published the whistle blower’s identity so their users could retaliate. When the CEO (Matthew Prince) was confronted about this, his reply was that the whistle blowers “should have used fake names”. Then this company you support had the nerve to claim to have a privacy pledge: “[A]ny personal information you provide to us is just that: personal and private.”
Forcing children to reveal their residential IP addresses to the fedi whereby any interested person (read: child preditors) can derive their approximate location – do you really think that’s a good idea for safety?
What are you even thinking? It most certainly is not safe to expose 20%+ of everyone’s traffic to a single corporation.
… nobody reports cp to cf. cf has a literal csam scanner that pretty much ever fediverse site is using. I own programming.dev. It’s in use there. You clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Have a nice day, I’m really not in the mood to talk with you anymore.
You were given plenty of references. You can verify it yourself if you want to get a clue – or continue to spread misinfo to the contrary. You are disservicing your users and the fedi by maintaining patronage to the privacy-abusing corp.
If you truly don’t understand the problems with Cloudflare, why not embrace transparency and inform people who visit your site that CF is used and that CF sees all their traffic despite the padlock? If you are proud of this, why conceal it?
“Petty” for not supporting the elitist exclusivity that you support? Cloudflare blocks impoverished communities whose ISPs use CGNAT because they cannot afford an IPv4 for everyone. Shame on CF pushers and shame on you for supporting marginalization by giant corps while backing privacy abuse.
I think whatever you’re doing is a little overkill for Lemmy. Normal users don’t have these issues.
That’s not true. Cloudflare marginalizes both normal users and street-wise users. In particular:
There are likely more oppressed groups beyond that because there is no transparency with Cloudflare.
Good thing that they can just simply use another fucking instance thanks to federated systems.
Not exactly.
!showerthoughts@lemmy.worldwas a poor choice, as is:!showerthoughts@zerobytes.monster← Cloudflare!showerthoughts@sh.itjust.works← Cloudflare!showerthoughts@lemmy.ca← Cloudflare!showerthoughts@lemm.ee← Cloudflare!hotshowerthoughts@x69.org← Cloudflare, and possibly irrelevant!showerthoughts@lemmy.ml← not CF, but copious political baggage, abusive moderation & centralized by disproportionate sizeThey’re all shit & the OP’s own account is limited to creating a new community on #lemmyWorld.
!showerthoughts@lemmy.mlwould be the lesser of evils but the best move would be create an acct on a digital rights-respecting instance that allows community creations and then create showerthoughts community there.(EDIT)
!showerThoughts@fedia.ioshould address these issues.It’s the beauty of the fediverse
It’s an abuse of the fediverse and antithetical to #decentralization to use Cloudflare. And ironically your comment comes in response to broken functionality manifesting from links to exclusive venues appearing in an openly public forum.