A non-starter in US politics. Support for Israel is too widespread amongst voters still. Even Bernie, who is at the left fringe of US politics, has only suggested attaching strings to the new multi-billion aid package.
“It is hard to achieve change, therefore we shouldn’t even talk about it as a possibility”
And you’re the one calling others right wing trolls? AIPAC runs a strong lobbying game, and while there are sizable segments who are unflinchingly 100% pro-Israel, a growing section of the electorate is horrified to know that US bombs are dropped from US built aircraft, against a dramatically weaker force, by an army that is repeatedly callous in its treatment of Palestinian life. And the American taxpayer funds it, rules are bent or broken to deliver those weapons, all while dissent is silenced.
Hamas doesn’t have an air force or tanks, it barely runs mortar artillery - air power is massive overkill. And the IDF has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to knowingly kill 10, 40, 100+ civilians if they can get at mid level officer or two. I’m disgusted with their actions towards civilians, and disgusted at US leadership and diplomats providing repeated political cover at the UN to neuter any resolution to help.
Well we could at least stop helping them
A non-starter in US politics. Support for Israel is too widespread amongst voters still. Even Bernie, who is at the left fringe of US politics, has only suggested attaching strings to the new multi-billion aid package.
Women voting was a non starter.
So was civil rights for black people.
Everything is a non starter if you don’t try
Centrists be like “Yeah! Isn’t it great?”
My point isn’t “We shouldn’t try anything”, my point is “Expecting results or making ultimatums at this juncture is divorced from reality.”
We need to work on swaying public opinion before threats to strategically vote against pro-Israel candidates and the like becomes even vaguely viable.
“It is hard to achieve change, therefore we shouldn’t even talk about it as a possibility”
And you’re the one calling others right wing trolls? AIPAC runs a strong lobbying game, and while there are sizable segments who are unflinchingly 100% pro-Israel, a growing section of the electorate is horrified to know that US bombs are dropped from US built aircraft, against a dramatically weaker force, by an army that is repeatedly callous in its treatment of Palestinian life. And the American taxpayer funds it, rules are bent or broken to deliver those weapons, all while dissent is silenced.
Hamas doesn’t have an air force or tanks, it barely runs mortar artillery - air power is massive overkill. And the IDF has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to knowingly kill 10, 40, 100+ civilians if they can get at mid level officer or two. I’m disgusted with their actions towards civilians, and disgusted at US leadership and diplomats providing repeated political cover at the UN to neuter any resolution to help.