• @SkyezOpen
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    211 months ago

    Hell, if anything, hamas is more interested in releasing the hostages than Israel is. They’ve let a few go, meanwhile the idf says “never forget” while turning Gaza into a crater. They don’t give a flying fuck about the hostages.

    • @dragontamer
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      11 months ago

      Hell, if anything, hamas is more interested in releasing the hostages than Israel is.

      What the fuck? Hamas fucking took those hostages to begin with and started this mess.

      There’s a comprehensive peace plan proposed by Egypt and Qatar. When Hamas steps up to the table and accepts the peace deal, then maybe you’d have grounds to stand on. But for now, Hamas refuses to give up the hostages, and continues to fight.

      • @SkyezOpen
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        411 months ago

        They took hostages for a reason, ostensibly to exchange them for something. Hamas doesn’t want peace though, so why would they care about a peace plan? Also, as mentioned before, they have released a few already.

        • @dragontamer
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          11 months ago

          They took hostages for a reason, ostensibly to exchange them for something.

          Yeah. Human shields. And they’re still using them as human shields. Its like terrorist tactics 101 here.

          • Sybil
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            311 months ago

            “terrorist” is loaded language

            • @dragontamer
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              11 months ago

              Fine

              Hamas fights using plain clothes, blending in with the civilian population and uses irregular and dishonorable tactics, like building military bases inside or under Hospitals to use as a human shield.

              Or like how most people would call it, they’re fucking terrorists.

              If you want a more precise legal terms, perhaps violating Geniva conventions, irregular, human shields, asymmetric. These are people who pretend to be civilians while fighting, while kidnapping civilians to use as shields.

              • Sybil
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                311 months ago

                firing on a hospital is indefensible.

                • @dragontamer
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                  Unless they store military command centers in the Hospital.

                  • Sybil
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                    211 months ago

                    even then.

              • Sybil
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                311 months ago

                does Israel recognize a Palestinian state? it seems like they own Gaza when they want to treat them like subjects, and they don’t when they want to treat them like an opposing state.

                • @dragontamer
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                  11 months ago

                  Does Hamas was to be treated as a state?

                  Part of that means telling and training your combatants to wear a uniform, so your enemies at war can tell the difference between civilians and combatants.

                  Wearing civilian clothes while attacking and killing people is literally a terrorist tactic. You aren’t supposed to blend into the crowds and use them as human shields.

                  • Sybil
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                    111 months ago

                    so Gaza isn’t an independent state?

              • Sybil
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                111 months ago

                Hamas is a political party. does likud wear plain clothes?

                • @dragontamer
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                  211 months ago

                  We literally have footage of Oct 7th with Hamas’s soldiers attacking and taking hostages and what they were wearing.

                  They absolutely violate the dress codes of war.

                  • Sybil
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                    211 months ago

                    so Gaza is an independent state?