• @dragontamer
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    111 months ago

    Then tell me again about how Hamas is the real genocidal group.

    Are you fucking kidding me? From the River to the Sea. So tell me, according to Hamas, how much land should the Jewish people get under their plan?

    Oh, don’t worry. I don’t need you to answer that. I have Hamas’s charter right here. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp Lets see… which line should I pick out?

    The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?

    Ah right. They want all of it. No room left for Jews or Israel. What of the Israelis?

    Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

    Oh right. They want to obliterate it. And guess what? this is just in the 2nd paragraph of Hamas’s founding documents.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      311 months ago

      From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

      Is singing “America the Beautiful” also a hate crime?

      I have Hamas’s charter right here

      You don’t. What you have is a link to a Yale Law library referencing a 1988 statement written up by Aḥmad Yāsīn. Yāsīn was arrested, tried, and sentenced by the Israeli government a year later, initially for life. However, he was released as part of a deal with Jordan, following a failed assassination attempt by Israel aimed at the far-more-moderate Khaled Mashal to reciprocally release the Mossad assassins involved in the murder attempt.

      Incidentally, you have to look up the 1988 statement on a Yale Law website, rather than a library or data center located in Gaza, because Hamas is unable to host its own historical records thanks to

      Furthermore, it should be noted that the current Prime Minister of Israel has been content with using Hamas as leverage against the Palestinian authority for decades. To quote Philidelphia’s favorite son, Benjamin Netanyahu, “Those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.

      They want all of it. No room left for Jews or Israel.

      The currently policy of Israel in the West Bank is to expand settlements into Palestinian territory and force Arabs further and further away from the major centers of commerce. The policy of Israel in Gaza has been to kettle the population and starve it into submission. Whatever an elderly Arab movement leader said in 1988, the existence of Hamas as an organization appears to only continue as a measure permitted by the Israeli government to divide Palestinians both politically and geographically. It is to prevent the collective political action of a unified Palestinian Authority in hopes of removing all Arabs from the Palestinian state.

      • @dragontamer
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        11 months ago

        Is singing “America the Beautiful” also a hate crime?

        Okay, so after spending literally hours with me about how X is intent vs non-intent of genocide… I give you a demonstration of literally a call to literally and fucking erase Israel off the face of the Earth and suddenly its not a genocidal example of intent?

        Good job. You’ve got a few posts to recalibrate or otherwise explain to me how this isn’t genocide and I really don’t care anymore about anything else you’re saying. You have to solve this issue right here, right now. Explain how this isn’t a genocidal goal. Where is Israel’s existence in Hamas’s plan?