We’re closing this thread. Everything that could be said has been said. Thank you
Original Post:
Today, we want to inform everyone that we have decided to defederate from https://exploding-heads.com/. We understand that defederating should always be a last resort, and individuals can certainly block communities. However, blocking alone does not prevent potential harm to vulnerable communities.
After carefully reviewing the instance, reported posts, and multiple comments from the community, we have concluded that exploding-heads is not adhering to the Lemmy or Citizen Code of Conduct. Therefore, we cannot, in good faith, continue to federate with an instance that consistently promotes hate, racism, and bullying.
Examples:
https://lemmy.world/post/577526 - Community Moderator Harassment
https://exploding-heads.com/post/92194 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/90780 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/91488 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/93725 - Community Moderator Post
Again, deciding to defederate from an instance is not taken lightly. In the future, we will continue to review instances on a case-by-case bases.
As for our community, please refrain from posting or commenting with hateful words as well. Arguing back and calling people names is not the solution. The best course of action is to report the posts or comments violating our server rules.
Lemmy Code of Conduct
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
Citizen Code of Conduct https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md
“We are committed to providing a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.”
For all the times I’ve heard this, I’ve yet to actually see it happen. The only people who claim this happened to them turn out to be bigots of some kind.
There’s your line. Bigoted speech is not welcome. Value judgments about born traits are not welcome. You have to be a pretty pathetic person to dislike someone for a trait they were born with.
It’s hard to understand what you’re responding to with the first paragraph, so I’m kinda lost on what you’re saying in the second one.
I’ll just post another reply since you probably already saw the other one. Hopefully it reaches you before you spend time writing a reply to the other one. Either way you’re just playing with identity politics. You say bigoted speech isn’t tolerated. The term “bigoted” refers to having or expressing strong, unreasonable, and unfair dislike or hatred towards a particular group of people based on their race, religion, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, or other characteristics. However what you’re doing is discriminating against a population based on how they express themselves. Sounds like bigotry. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Am missing the part where changing the word from discrimination to bigotry somehow excuses the thing you’re claiming to be against by doing the same action.
Generally speaking, how someone feels about those characteristics is not one of the characteristics. Bigotry is usually understood to be about born traits.
By your argument, everyone is a bigot. You have to accept all speech, otherwise you’re bigoted against whatever speech you refuse. But at the same time, by accepting all speech, you’re also bigoted. You can’t be both pro trans rights and anti trans rights – there is one you like more than the other.
So with the notion that we’re all bigoted, let me rephrase. Bigotry against born traits and religion is unacceptable.
It’s also worth mentioning the paradox of intolerance here. You can’t have tolerance without having intolerance.
“Generally speaking, how someone feels about those characteristics is not one of the characteristics. Bigotry is usually understood to be about born traits.”
Right so only specific types of discrimination are frowned upon.
“You can’t be both pro trans rights and anti trans rights”
No one has to identify at all.
“It’s also worth mentioning the paradox of intolerance here. You can’t have tolerance without having intolerance.”
There’s a paradox of everything with this framework though. You can’t have good without bad, you can’t have white without black, you can’t have symmetrical without asymmetry, you can’t have victims without perpetrators, you can’t have an I without a you. Essentially making the point arbitrary…
What seems to have happened was division based out of convenience for the many at the expense of the few. And yet again, I UNDERSTAND why the decision was made. I’m saying it’s inconvenient for anyone doing their due diligence to keep an open mind.